Learning about crossovers helped convert me from atheist to a believer in God

All of what you said ring true and is right for me...

But just let do not forgot what is free will and a free act...

It is an act of thinking motivated by a higher motives way over torture and thirst...

This higher motive , uncondional love , as the maternal instinct is an image for, is precisely what set us free... But we must THINK and IMAGINE this higher value and motive FIRST to begin with...

Here if we think about was is thinking , it is an act where the produced content, the thought , is completely mine as his creator... Think about beauty, goodness, Truth and musical perceived meaning which we participate from for example... In thinking we are ABSOLUTELY FREE....We create a content of thought and we perceive it as created...

In this thought creation there is an horizontal process from me to my thought content.. But there is also a vertical moment out of time, an inspiration , an intuition , an act of will deeply connected to our past life and future life OUT OF TIME...

We can observe this in the mathematical process of thinking itself..

We can observe it among the great mystic thoughts of Christian pseudo-Dyonisos or in Rumi or Suhrawardi or in Raimon Lulle the mystic who is the creator of cybernetics ( said Weiner) in Ramakrishna , or in the advaita vedanta , in Christ as in Buddha ...

We are free... But think about that , this means we are responsible of everything, and everything concern us... Who want to face this ? The source create us free as it is, but we dont want this gift... 😊 We humans we look for excuse we dont want what we have : absolute freedom...

We become aware of consciousness in each thought creation by us each moment, but we refuse to see it...Then we awake a micro second just the time to go back in deep sleep...

A genius is only someone very attentive to the phenomena and to his thought process and to nothing else... They tought all the same at the end .... Aristotle , Archimedes, Leonardo Da Vinci, or Goethe, i can pick these four and reduce all their thinking to the same method mastering the creation of concepts to match the phenomena succession EXACTLY (Goethe call it exact imagination by the way ) .... These four are almost the same mind... I cannot demonstrate it here by lack of space... But think about them and what they have in common ...

What the OP thought about is very deep... People who mock him simply dont understand at all what he allude to... Those  who understand a bit of science and dont understand the OP must listen this deep master class : "the music of shapes" by Alain Connes Youtube ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z52ZAPrRbqE&t=527s

It is very long and difficult but after that "illumination " is certain... 😊 Anyway it proves why the OP is right in his intuition but at the highest level of maths and physics...

@mahgister

First because we were created free ... Then the world resemble what our free acts make it so...

Hmmm. . . I find this a bit more complicated.

We are simultaneously "free" and "not free", no? As Consciousness, we are free. As incarnated humans, we are bound not only by maya and the fact that our memories of past incarnations are wiped clean each time we reincarnate but also by the culture and times/Yuga into which we are born. So, the "freedom" of Consciousness is only "real" if we are aware of it. Otherwise, it might as well not exist. Indeed, without awareness of Consciousness, this is exactly how we behave --as if Consciousness does not exist. Furthermore, we can be aware of Consciousness and still make choices that are based upon habitual identification with the body, ego, etc.

As humans, temporarily identified with our bodies, sense impressions and thoughts, we are given lots of room to stumble around within the boundaries imposed by our our limitations ("enough rope to hang ourselves"). As I see it, this "freedom to act ignorantly" seems more accurately described as bondage.

Are we "free" to become aware of consciousness? I’m not sure. Is someone who has not engaged in spiritual practice in previous incarnations and who is born into circumstances that do not nurture/support such exploration, "free" to discover Consciousness? Perhaps only an avatar can such a question.

Your thoughts?

@mahgister Your erudition on this topic as others is impressive, yet (as ever) incondensable to a cogent argument for or against any particular proposition. Please try this one: why should the wildest of all conceivable explanations -- a supernatural cause, something outside nature, hence unknowable to natural beings -- ever arise to a level of probability worthy of mention by homo logicus contemporaneous? Surely the line connecting the harmonic sequence to "god" is anything but a straight one.

I never try to convince people...

I gave them recommendations , books, links, articles, my own thoughts as if each one of these recommendations was a point in a children drawing ...My job was teaching reading analysis for adults...Not grammar but stimulating imagination and relation between fields...

I cannot linked all the points of the drawing i wanted to suggest here... it will take more than one page to do so...😊

The complete drawing is the most simple thing in the world , as said Lao Tse speaking of the Tao ... It is also the most complex thing in all universes as number theory is...Or we can pick the drawing of a plant or of a mammal in our own mind after seeing it , and inspect his potential form variations...Then we will see miracles...

I dont want to persuade people and act on their free will, i want to suggest deep writers and deep video as the one above i recommended...

Anyway those who understand are ready to understand , for those we are not ready the time will come...

To answer your question , I will use an argument from the late greatest american genius , Charles Sanders Pierce, a thought content is sterile seed or fertile seed if he is planted at the right location and at the right time... Pierce created pragmatism which is the same doctrine as Christ : you will recognise the good tree by his numerous good fruits... Truth then is not a nominalist abstraction... It is a real process in the world... We really see the world, we dont compute an image...

In the same way The Source is not an abstraction over the sea of probability, it is the sea of probability itself , moved by the most improbable wave there is... The prime number distribution which transcend even the statistics methods which men had devised to study it...No man has ever probe the bottom of the sea of the primes ... You want a miracle to touch , and plant and mammals wont do it, try number theory or music... It is almost the same ... 😊

I forgot to say that my thought is not a "cogent argument" nor for or against any particular proposition... It is an IMAGINAL motives pervading all geniuses over all history... Perceived meaning dont need to be proven right...It is a non discursive real experience and real perception... For mystic God is not an abstraction... For a mathematician prime numbers are more real than their own body... For Bach music is God himself walking and speaking ....

Who need an argument?

We need reality...

@mahgister Your erudition on this topic as others is impressive, yet (as ever) incondensable to a cogent argument for or against any particular proposition. Please try this one: why should the wildest of all conceivable explanations -- a supernatural cause, something outside nature, hence unknowable to natural beings -- ever arise to a level of probability worthy of mention by homo logicus contemporaneous? Surely the line connecting the harmonic sequence to "god" is anything but a straight one.

Sorry; you had indeed referenced the prime number sequence; it was others who invoked harmonic sequence and 3dB and so much else that is beautiful and elegant but which nonetheless COULD NOT BE OTHERWISE. OP notes that "multiple universes" conjectures are still around: yes, but not to denote "randomness" as the supposed only alternative to supernaturae. 

Many great minds find fascination in primes. Yours, for instance. Just why, I have never grasped. Perhaps because I see no connection between primes, or their sequence of  vast dispersion, and anything else. But then my mind isn't that profound. Matter can transform to energy, but not a circle to a square. The infinite decimals of pi, and the scary figures of Zero and Infinity, fascinate me much more.

Granted; "matter" and "energy" are placeholder terms for a reality transcending consciousness. (No Cartesian dualism here). And if "god" is simply a label for the wonder of mathemusical physiochemical bioecological phenomena, fine by me. I'm pretty sure that's the "god" that OP and nearly all others are speaking of.

 

I believe in the Dao and the Dao does not smell.