Learning about crossovers helped convert me from atheist to a believer in God


Let’s see if this one survives.    

I have been an atheist for 50 years.  Recently I became a believer.  One factor that helped tip the scales is the “fine tuned universe” argument - the idea that the physics constants, e.g. the mass of an electron, are so finely “selected” that if they weren’t very close to what they are, life wouldn’t exist.  This is an argument for a creator.  The best counter argument seems to be that there are an infinite number of universes and we got lucky.  

When I got into audio, and started learning about crossovers, I was ASTOUNDED at how well the pieces fit together.  Octaves are exact doubles of frequency.  3dB describes so many seemingly unrelated phenomena.  But the one that really got me was the magic of capacitors and inductors.  They share no parts, other than wires sticking out at each end (usually), one acts due to voltage, one acts due to electromagnetism, one resists AC, one resists DC.  And yet, somehow, they are mirror images of each other, using almost exactly the same equations, behaving perfectly orthogonal to each other, even to the extent of how powerfully they perform their function (3dB again).  How is this possible?  Could this have happened due to random chance?  I smell a creator.  

alanhuth

I never try to convince people...

I gave them recommendations , books, links, articles, my own thoughts as if each one of these recommendations was a point in a children drawing ...My job was teaching reading analysis for adults...Not grammar but stimulating imagination and relation between fields...

I cannot linked all the points of the drawing i wanted to suggest here... it will take more than one page to do so...😊

The complete drawing is the most simple thing in the world , as said Lao Tse speaking of the Tao ... It is also the most complex thing in all universes as number theory is...Or we can pick the drawing of a plant or of a mammal in our own mind after seeing it , and inspect his potential form variations...Then we will see miracles...

I dont want to persuade people and act on their free will, i want to suggest deep writers and deep video as the one above i recommended...

Anyway those who understand are ready to understand , for those we are not ready the time will come...

To answer your question , I will use an argument from the late greatest american genius , Charles Sanders Pierce, a thought content is sterile seed or fertile seed if he is planted at the right location and at the right time... Pierce created pragmatism which is the same doctrine as Christ : you will recognise the good tree by his numerous good fruits... Truth then is not a nominalist abstraction... It is a real process in the world... We really see the world, we dont compute an image...

In the same way The Source is not an abstraction over the sea of probability, it is the sea of probability itself , moved by the most improbable wave there is... The prime number distribution which transcend even the statistics methods which men had devised to study it...No man has ever probe the bottom of the sea of the primes ... You want a miracle to touch , and plant and mammals wont do it, try number theory or music... It is almost the same ... 😊

I forgot to say that my thought is not a "cogent argument" nor for or against any particular proposition... It is an IMAGINAL motives pervading all geniuses over all history... Perceived meaning dont need to be proven right...It is a non discursive real experience and real perception... For mystic God is not an abstraction... For a mathematician prime numbers are more real than their own body... For Bach music is God himself walking and speaking ....

Who need an argument?

We need reality...

 

@mahgister Your erudition on this topic as others is impressive, yet (as ever) incondensable to a cogent argument for or against any particular proposition. Please try this one: why should the wildest of all conceivable explanations -- a supernatural cause, something outside nature, hence unknowable to natural beings -- ever arise to a level of probability worthy of mention by homo logicus contemporaneous? Surely the line connecting the harmonic sequence to "god" is anything but a straight one.

Sorry; you had indeed referenced the prime number sequence; it was others who invoked harmonic sequence and 3dB and so much else that is beautiful and elegant but which nonetheless COULD NOT BE OTHERWISE. OP notes that "multiple universes" conjectures are still around: yes, but not to denote "randomness" as the supposed only alternative to supernaturae. 

Many great minds find fascination in primes. Yours, for instance. Just why, I have never grasped. Perhaps because I see no connection between primes, or their sequence of  vast dispersion, and anything else. But then my mind isn't that profound. Matter can transform to energy, but not a circle to a square. The infinite decimals of pi, and the scary figures of Zero and Infinity, fascinate me much more.

Granted; "matter" and "energy" are placeholder terms for a reality transcending consciousness. (No Cartesian dualism here). And if "god" is simply a label for the wonder of mathemusical physiochemical bioecological phenomena, fine by me. I'm pretty sure that's the "god" that OP and nearly all others are speaking of.

 

In the end, it does not matter what any of us think.  Believe in what you believe and live your life accordingly.  Music is a big part of my life.  I am thankful for everything I have and I lean on a higher power to drive me to being a better person every day.  Science is not black and white and can be misleading.  

I dont believe and i dont need to believe in my nose nor in the Tao , the Tao as my nose had no smell of his own  ...😊

I apologize for the correction....

 

“We join spokes together in a wheel,
but it is the center hole
that makes the wagon move.

We shape clay into a pot,
but it is the emptiness inside
that holds whatever we want.

We hammer wood for a house,
but it is the inner space
that makes it livable.

We work with being,
but non-being is what we use.”

Tao to Ching