I have had different transports plugged into the same DAC playing the same CD. Mostly I compared by switching back and forth but one time I enlisted my (very bored) wife to do the switching and write down my impressions. My blind impressions always corresponded to my unblinded, but unless I get a different lab assistant I won’t be doing that again. At any rate transports matter, imo, but the DAC is still the major determinant of digital sound
If the DAC is the same, how different do CD transports sound?
One interesting topic of discussion here is how audible the differences are between CD players when they are used as transports only — or when they are only transports to begin with.
In other words, in a comparison which keeps the DAC the same, how much difference can be heard between CD transports?
This recent video by Harley Lovegrove of Pearl Acoustics provides one test of this question. It may not be the ultimate test, but he does describe the experimental conditions and informations about the qualifications of the listeners.
He comes to the main conclusion here: https://youtu.be/TAOLGsS27R0?t=1079
The whole video is worth watching, I think.
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I think the differences are more about build quality, features, and the ability to read cds ie error correction, buffer etc. I’d like to think my McIntosh transport sounds better than others, and maybe it does, but it can read cds other players can’t and it also has the ability to accept and play dsd files from a USB thumb drive. My two cents. |
Thanks for spelling out your thinking. I see your point about longer term listening. On the other hand, this was a test done by someone experienced in speaker design and recording and a group of others with a variety of expertise in audio and acoustic arts. Given the mettle of this group, I find it hard to believe they would participate in a sham experiment for entertainment purposes only, especially one where their names are mentioned and for all of this to be posted on a fairly popular YouTube channel. (It has 94k views so far.) I’m more inclined to think that both you and they have made observations relevant to the question, Do transports make a difference? @vthokie83 Interesting that you find differences but that they’re not enough in your resolving system to spend up for a Jay’s. That does confirm if not the lack of difference in the YouTube experiment, at least the proposition that there is not that much to gain by a better transport. I see others here differ, and that’s fine, of course.
This is the explanation I got from a local audiophile friend whose expertise is in telecommunications and computing. It would fit with the experimental listening results which Mr. Lovegrove obtained. It often gets lost in these threads, but I posted the Youtube video to generate discussion, not because I agreed with it. Thank you, folks, for the discussion. |
With my GREAT (top flight, best ever) sounding office system (considered junk level for most here) where I rotate through lots of equipment and do my casual listening, I finally connected my office laptop to the receiver. Then did a simple comparison: A) laptop, ripped CD (FLAC), 25 ft cheapest USB C to Shiit DAC, DAC expansive ($15 RCA to receiver. B) Panasonic using above CD, same RCA to receiver What blew my mind (initially): the laptop sounded SO MUCH (not even close) better. Granted, my fancy system (no component was more than $500, all used) is very revealing, still the difference was astonishing. The laptop just sounded so much more ALIVE, staging was a lot better. Further rethinking made it obvious: I was comparing a great (Shiit) and modern/new DAC with a really shitty, cheap and decades old (build into the lowly Panasonic CD) DCA. I am still a big believer that the ANALOG portion of any music chain is having by far the greatest impact (room, speakers, DAC, amps).
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@hilde45 A few of us have mentioned that there is an improvement moving from the Cambridge CXC transport, which incidentally you have. Do you know anyone who is relatively nearby you who has a Jay’s, Simaudio, or Project CD transport , or a dealer who can let you test out a CD transport that is beyond the Cambridge? A firsthand assessment in your system would be much better to draw a conclusion from for yourself then cherry picking the comments in the thread that allow you to confirm the video narrative that you bought into. Also, it’s somewhat interesting that you ignore the fact that a DAC designer states that transports impact DAC’s but go with the non-direct knowledge of a friend who is in telecommunications since it "confirms" what you wanted to believe. |
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