Tube sound is not about warmth. It's about correct presentation.

My remark acknowledging your rightful claim in your post is not "bickering"...

But your answer accusing me of "bickering" dont please me...

I already answered above about tube versus S.S. and correct presentation ...

And i can resume in a sentence my point : Acoustic matter more than the gear choices, if the chosen designs are relatively good to begin with , being tube or S. S. because the choice of gear is between design that can be good in the two case and at the end synergy matter more for acoustic experience than tubes or S.S. choices ...Nowadays it is already proven fact that some S.S. design are good others bad and the same is true for tubes... Audio is about trade-off all along the chain component from recording to room /ears acoustics...

And saying that is not "bickering"...

@mahgister Whatever. Not interested in bickering.

How about the subject at hand?

@mahgister Yes, I get all that. You seem to rather enjoy nitpicking, isn’t that what you’re doing?

Yes, it is, bpoletti. Voicing is another matter.

You accuse me of what you did FIRST after my post to you which was acknowledging your post... "Nitpicking" my post with the word "bickering" ...😁

Discussing politely without using words as bickering or nitpicking in my first post answering someone is what i do ... Can you say the same ?

My best to you....

I will stop here with you ...

@mahgister Yes, I get all that. You seem to rather enjoy nitpicking, isn’t that what you’re doing?

OP, “Tube sound is not about warmth. It’s about correct presentation.”

I absolutely agree. I suspect that the term warm came when solid state entered the picture as it was cold, steely, and harsh… with a compressed midrange. Warmth refers to a fully fleshed out midrange without the sound dominated by harsh trebly distortion.

Presentation. I could not agree more, well designed tube gear gets the presentation right. Solid state tends to over emphasize details, venue and bass slap. This brings up an unnatural presence of the mastering and venue. While it is exciting to hear some violinist move his foot during a performance or the London subway train rattle under the symphony hall… is this really enhancing the music? Or taking the focus off of the music.

Tubes tend to get the presentation right, get the gestalt… the core of the music right. Now some companies have pushed their tube designs to asymmetrical capture the details. But companies like Audio Research, Cary, VAC, and Conrad Johnson have remained true to getting better and better at capturing the music and keeping the presentation real. After ten years of attending all the symphony orchestra conserts in 7th row center seats I can attest to how well they do this. The violins are properly placed… not artificially dropped in my lap. Rock albums do not take the cymbals from the back… carefully integrated into the song and put them in my face. While, it can be exciting to hear this… over the musical spectrum it screws up far more music and the musical experience than it makes sound great.