Thank you all for very interesting and positive responses! I will consider a bit, and come back.
Nearfield listening - once more
I have a small nearfield pinpoint satellite speaker system, as well as a large floorstander speaker system, at home. I am intrigued by the fact that the small system does some things as well or even better than the big system. How can that be. A few questions:
1 - how can big speakers be tuned /positioned towards optimal nearfield listening?
2 - what are the main things to consider, to get optimal nearfield sound, with smaller speakers? (I already know that speaker stands and positioning are key elements).
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@hiphiphan, I'm with you regarding your first paragraph.
That's what I experienced for the first time (coincidentally) just 3 weeks ago when listening to my surround speakers (Monitor Audio Studio 5): - LS are standing in line with my head, slightly toed in, crossing path about 1.5 inches front my face I was casually listening to music coming from these speakers. Very low crosstalk this way but no stage and depth. As it happens, I move the swivel chair about 5 degrees to the right and bam, out of nowhere (sic!) the sound was hanging right there approx. 4 feet in front of me, slightly above my head. Like a musical hologram. Moving to the left for 5 degrees and the hologram is gone. Interesting: Listening to mono recordings, everything was in front of me. Listening in stereo, just a few instruments were in front of me. The other instruments were coming directly from the speakers to my ears. Maybe the above might be a valid answer to OP's question no 1 While this sound experience does not reflect the reality as to where the musicians were standing during the record (like when listening to front speakers with depth and stage), it was nevertheless a kind of revelation to me. I still have to work further on the front speakers to get the same result. However, I am not sure if this will ever happen.
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@o_holter You cannot get big 3 way or 4 way speakers with multiple discreet drivers to sum and provide a coherent presentation at nearfield distances. The ideal speaker for such an application is a 2 way single concentric driver ( tweeter and mid/bass driver --> point source). Here are the best engineered candidates. If you are budget constrained, absolutely go with the Technics. Technics SB-C600 (1100 per pair) https://hifiheaven.net/product/technics-sb-c600-k-premium-bookshelf-speakers-black/ Mofi Sourcepoint 10 (3700 per pair)
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I have a soundfield encompassing the listener position (3 feet) and 2 feet outside of the speakers with depth... I used 100 bucks modified small active speakers ...Natural timbre and pin point imaging .. But i modify the porthole design ... On most speakers the porthole is not well design for esthetical and cost reason ... The volume of the porthole must be tune , any speakers with a porthole is a Helmholtz resonators... In these resonators the ratio between the volume of the box the cross ratio of the neck dimensions is fundamental ...Most speakers designer generally did not invest invest in supplementary research cost to implement a complex porthole, especially extending outside of the wooden box... And those designers who create an internal labyrinth for a well designed porthole ask for more than the cheap amount i paid for my 2 way speakers with a small inefficient tube as porthole... So well reviewed thy were my M-audio AV40 were disliked by me for 10 years BEFORE i redesigned the porthole ... https://www.avsforum.com/threads/labyrinth-cabinets-are-they-good.2725345/
Then i recommend in near field a two way speakers with a rear porthole which you can simply redesigned using straws of different volume or lenght, inserted in one another and flexible ... Doing this i goes from 85 Hertz to 50 hertz clear not boomy ...No need for a sub anymore ... I also redesigned the wave guide tweeter form with cylinder of the right lenght adjusted for my listening position ... Absolutely transformative ... But no audio company will sell these modified speakers because it is too bizarre and unesthetical ... i dont give a damn listening music quality soundfield and timbre better than all headphones i ever own ( save the AKG K340 ).. Viva near listening at peanuts costs! |
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