High End System Building. How important is the matching, cabling and room? Thoughts ?


The last 20 years as an audiophile and now a dealer has taught me a very important lesson. Everything matters. The equipment can be great but no matter how much you spend the matching is very important. The cabling is also important. Some think cabling is all about making it sound better. I prefer my cabling to not get in the way. It’s like it can’t be a clogged faucet for your sound.  Materials and shielding are very important. In addition to that the room is very important. You may not have a perfect room but you build your system to work in the room you have. I don’t have all the answers but you can’t just spend money and have a great system. Combination of equipment, cabling and room has gotten me there. I’ve tried a lot of gear and cables and this is how I feel. What are your thoughts everyone? 

calvinj

@deep_333 man I have seen your comments on most of my posts. Typically they include personal shots. I don’t do that to you. We are having real,conversations on this. If you wanna contribute I have no issue. Your posts after the initial comments were great. Let’s keep it professional is all I’m saying. Happy listening 

Everyone system building is work. We all have different budgets , preferences, rooms. Some like cables some don’t believe in them. Some listen to voices where 80% of my listening is jazz instrumentals.  Hard bop.  Some are tube guys. Some like solid state.  I like super low noise floors. Some equipment can’t achieve that. I like air and space with wide soundstages. I have figured out my system in my room. Getting the right cabling to make the music flow. My equipment has zero noise and the notes come from a complete silent background. There is air and space between the notes. I will be taking my entire system to the Lone Star Audiofest in Dallas Texas in June. First week. If you are in the area stop by and check it out out. Infigo will also be at the Dallas Audio Show. March 15-17 in Dallas, Texas. The newest industry show. We will be showing with Reference Stenhiems in one of the Ball rooms. It will be fun. 

All of it is important. Synergy between components in the system, this is achieved through correct matching of components, cables and most importantly the room. Treatments and acoustics are the biggest factor, far and above cables, cables will not make up for a poorly setup room. If you live in a phone booth buy some good IE Monitors and a new iPhone. 

Happy New Year and I hope your resolution is to stop these ignorant trolling comments and posts.

Right. There are only two places where matching is important, cartridge to tonearm and amp to speakers. Cables, depending on their purpose, are either good (sound like nothing) or bad (sound like something). There is nothing in between. 

If you have a bad room you have a bad system and the solutions are to use headphones or find another room. 

A dealer's job is to make money. Survival is always #1 with humans. I know only one dealer who could care less. His shop is a retirement gig and he is all set in terms of finances. Not that other dealers are not OK to deal with but I have never experienced a dealer telling anyone to go to another dealer to buy the competition because it is better. I worked in that system for 5 years from a big box store to the highest end store in the neighborhood. The only difference was the degree of sophistication. 

 

erik -squires is absolutely right ...

Nothing will replace room acoustic power of transformation for the worst or the better ...

No wave guide or near listening field will cancel room acoustics power potential , i do the two i am in near listening field and i redesign my active speakers tweeter wave guide and porthole by the way ...😊

Knowing the speed of sound and room dimensions it is preposterous to claim that reflected waves will be discounted because of near field listening in a small room ...

I hear modifications in my small room even through nearfield listening ...And my directed wave guide tweeter are at 3 feet or few inches less from my ear ...

Acoustic passive treatment and active controls of the room are the most important factor ...

After that electrical noise floor of all components and of the room and of the house together ...

Vibrations controls of the speakers and resonance control in third...

Cables come way after that ...( save if your cable are horrible and even with horrible cable , it is certainly and probably fouth factors so much impactful are the others )

i know for a fact that most people had never go through extensive room acoustic modifications than they think acoustics controls is a cherry on their gear choice cake ...

Completely false...

The gear choices matter less than the acoustics.... The only exception would be comparing my low cost active speakers, so good they are modified with a Revel or top Tannoy speakers...Here the extreme choice between low cost and higher cost speakers matter AS MUCH as the room controls... But only in this case , for most people average speakers mid-fi choices , even upgrading the speakers will be in many case way more astounding than redesigning the room acoustic...But most people cannot even had a dedicated room , this is why they are forgetful of the acoustic huge impact , they never experie4nced it anyway ...

Room acoustic for me is way more than buying few panels by the way ...

Anyway i know that most dont know and will never know...A dedicated room cost too much, even me now i am in a smaller one i could no more design at the le4vel of my past one ...Near listening field ask for room acoustic but not at the level far listening field asked for to be optimal for sure ...

Because i could not imagine it BEFORE doing my many years room experiments with resonators and others devices i understand why most people can think that other factors matter more ...But truth must be told...

Acoustics rule everything in audio...Not the reverse so important it could be ...And acoustics concepts exceed room acoustic design ... I modified my porthole design with acoustics concepts ...

 

Nothing is as important in getting to done as the room and it’s treatment. You can go round and round with speakers, and cables but when you get the room sorted, you are on the express train to done.

As for cables, after a lot of playing and listening I’ve settled on pure silver interconnects and Mogami speaker cables. Everything else I’ve heard has been subtractive.