What makes One Music Server Sound Better than Another?


So this week my Mojo Audio DejaVu music server that I have used for the past 2-3 years crapped out. Benjamin at Mojo was more than helpful and the DejaVu is on its way to Mojo Audio where it will make a full recovery.

Thankfully, I still have my Antipodes DX2 Gen 3 (their former flagship) music server so I hooked it up. After wrestling with Roon protocols, transfers, and set-up menus, I was able to get it going so I have music. The DX and my Sonore Sig Rendu SE opt. are both connected to my network so the DX (like the DejaVu), is only being used as a Roon core and the Sig Rendu SE serves as the Roon endpoint for streaming Tidal and Qobuz, with a direct USB connection to my DAC.

The point of this thread is to ask, how come I perceive the the DejaVu server as sounding better than the Antipdes DX? In fairness, the differences I perceive are not great but it seems the DejaVu is fuller sounding, more tonally rich, and bolder. Is this why some here spend $10K+ on a Grimm, Taiko or something else?

If a server is basically a computer, sending digital information to a streamer/endpoint and, assuming that digital information is transmitted asynchronously and reclocked by the DAC’s master clock, and assuming noise is not the issue (i.e., both units are quiet and there is an optical break between the network and both the server and endpoint) then what are the technical reasons one should sound better than the other? It is not that I want to spend $10K+ on a music server with a lifespan of maybe 5 years before becoming obsolete, but I would like to understand what more you are getting for your money. So far, the best I can come up with is lower internal noise as the major factor.

As a side note to the above, when I thought things looked hopeless for getting set up, I scheduled a support session with Antipodes and, although I lucked into the solution before the meeting time, Mark Cole responded ready to help. Setting up the session was super easy and reminded me of the superior level of support I had come to enjoy from Antipodes during the time that the DX was my primary server, including multiple updates and 2 or 3 hardware upgrades, which prolonged the service life of the DX. Good products and good company.

 

mitch2

Interesting thread, mostly above my pay grade ;) Without hijacking this thread, my Mid-fi ears are delighted with the streaming input I get from an Audifi WIFi receiver with an ESS Sabre DAC, controlled by the 4-Stream Mobile App playing lossless files from Apple Music from my IPhone with the current IOS.

Sooo, which device or app is providing the operating system that processes the digital music file in the absence of a high dollar streamer?

I have one brother who does not like the sound of my stereo at all. He says he doesn’t care for that hifi sound. He much prefers his Sony boombox. He’s not kidding. How loud his boombox gets impresses him. I was expecting praise and honor for how my system sounds. Leave it to brothers to smack us back into reality. :)

Sooo, which device or app is providing the operating system that processes the digital music file in the absence of a high dollar streamer?

The Apps that you are thinking about remotely control the high dollar streamer. No processing takes place in the phone or tablet. But in the case of a low cost wifi receiver- like the Sony boombox, your phone is the bridge and the boombox the endpoint. Or, the phone is the server and the boombox the player.  Is that what you meant?

@tonywinga …”Leave it to brothers to smack us back into reality. :)”.

 

Not sure that is reality he is smacking you back to.

You have a really carefully chosen high end system of a very distinct flavor. Your combining Audio Research, Pass and Wilson… well, I can practically hear it. I think few could not be very impressed and complimentary, even if not their particular flavor. To me, great systems are like ice cream flavors from a great ice cream manufacturer. They all taste great, but I really love Butter Pecan.

Agreed.  When you get to a certain level it’s a matter of preference and will largely depend on what type of music you like best.  
 

Probably why some prefer to have two or more systems.  
 

I would have either a pair of Quads or Volti horns for a second system.  All it takes is time and money.  Hearing a pair of Quad ESL speakers in the 1980s got me into hi end hifi.  Funny I never got a pair.  

great systems are like ice cream flavors from a great ice cream manufacturer. They all taste great, but I really love Butter Pecan.

Peanut butter chocolate for me thank you. But yes, is there a bad ice cream? Hmmm, what is Tony's flavour?  

Hearing a pair of Quad ESL speakers in the 1980s got me into hi end hifi.  Funny I never got a pair.  

Maybe a good thing. Just caught a post not long ago on the Planar asylum- fellow has been a huge Quad fan for many years- first pair in 1989- many pairs and faulty panel issues later and looks like the last straw has fallen- he says he is done with Quad!