What makes One Music Server Sound Better than Another?


So this week my Mojo Audio DejaVu music server that I have used for the past 2-3 years crapped out. Benjamin at Mojo was more than helpful and the DejaVu is on its way to Mojo Audio where it will make a full recovery.

Thankfully, I still have my Antipodes DX2 Gen 3 (their former flagship) music server so I hooked it up. After wrestling with Roon protocols, transfers, and set-up menus, I was able to get it going so I have music. The DX and my Sonore Sig Rendu SE opt. are both connected to my network so the DX (like the DejaVu), is only being used as a Roon core and the Sig Rendu SE serves as the Roon endpoint for streaming Tidal and Qobuz, with a direct USB connection to my DAC.

The point of this thread is to ask, how come I perceive the the DejaVu server as sounding better than the Antipdes DX? In fairness, the differences I perceive are not great but it seems the DejaVu is fuller sounding, more tonally rich, and bolder. Is this why some here spend $10K+ on a Grimm, Taiko or something else?

If a server is basically a computer, sending digital information to a streamer/endpoint and, assuming that digital information is transmitted asynchronously and reclocked by the DAC’s master clock, and assuming noise is not the issue (i.e., both units are quiet and there is an optical break between the network and both the server and endpoint) then what are the technical reasons one should sound better than the other? It is not that I want to spend $10K+ on a music server with a lifespan of maybe 5 years before becoming obsolete, but I would like to understand what more you are getting for your money. So far, the best I can come up with is lower internal noise as the major factor.

As a side note to the above, when I thought things looked hopeless for getting set up, I scheduled a support session with Antipodes and, although I lucked into the solution before the meeting time, Mark Cole responded ready to help. Setting up the session was super easy and reminded me of the superior level of support I had come to enjoy from Antipodes during the time that the DX was my primary server, including multiple updates and 2 or 3 hardware upgrades, which prolonged the service life of the DX. Good products and good company.

 

mitch2

@tonywinga …”Leave it to brothers to smack us back into reality. :)”.

 

Not sure that is reality he is smacking you back to.

You have a really carefully chosen high end system of a very distinct flavor. Your combining Audio Research, Pass and Wilson… well, I can practically hear it. I think few could not be very impressed and complimentary, even if not their particular flavor. To me, great systems are like ice cream flavors from a great ice cream manufacturer. They all taste great, but I really love Butter Pecan.

Agreed.  When you get to a certain level it’s a matter of preference and will largely depend on what type of music you like best.  
 

Probably why some prefer to have two or more systems.  
 

I would have either a pair of Quads or Volti horns for a second system.  All it takes is time and money.  Hearing a pair of Quad ESL speakers in the 1980s got me into hi end hifi.  Funny I never got a pair.  

great systems are like ice cream flavors from a great ice cream manufacturer. They all taste great, but I really love Butter Pecan.

Peanut butter chocolate for me thank you. But yes, is there a bad ice cream? Hmmm, what is Tony's flavour?  

Hearing a pair of Quad ESL speakers in the 1980s got me into hi end hifi.  Funny I never got a pair.  

Maybe a good thing. Just caught a post not long ago on the Planar asylum- fellow has been a huge Quad fan for many years- first pair in 1989- many pairs and faulty panel issues later and looks like the last straw has fallen- he says he is done with Quad!

 

Getting back on topic, I have had the Antipodes music server for almost 3 weeks- I'm 3/4 of the way through the trial period.  It is for sure not going back.  Compared to my previous NUC based Rock/Roon music server it is much better sounding.  What makes it sound better I'm sure includes the power supply, the double isolated ethernet port, the custom designed motherboards and the dual processors for the server side and the player side.  But I find the software makes a difference too.  I can see now why so many here like the sound of their Aurrender music servers with its proprietary software.  

The Antipodes, with its dual processors allows for flexibility with respect to operating software.  For example, I can run Roon on the Server which allows me to control the music with the Roon App on my iPad.  But I don't have to necessarily run Roon on the Player.  I have several options such as not just Roon but also Squeezebox, MPD, HD Player, Shairport.  HD Player, like Roon requires a subscription.  The first day that I got the Antipodes I switched the Player from Roon to Squeeze.  It sounded better so I listened that way for over two weeks.  I decided to switch back to Roon for a day.  At first, I didn't think it was much different but as time went on I felt like I was missing something in the music.  The next day I switched back to Squeeze and it felt like I had removed ear plugs.  It was that big a difference.  

It took years to learn analog.  Tube bias, cables, tonearms, cartridges and then it was dialing in VTA, VTF, Antiskate, azimuth, and cartridge loading.  It was art and science and then there was the air bearing ETII Linear Tracking tonearm that could reduce men to quivering jello.  Now we have a whole new set of variables in the digital world.  What fun...

 

I can tell you that from having owned the Antipodes K41 for the better part of 2 months now I’m extraordinarily impressed by the sound and the level of support from Antipodes. Mark Cole is the best. I have it paired with the K22 player feeding a Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC, connected by Cerious Tech Lumniscate cabling - which , in my opinion is the best sounding cable one can buy at any price I’m about as happy as can be with the overall sound quality and I LOVE the degree of support Antipodes provides for Squeeze I’m a Roon lifer and is seldom use Roon as Squeeze sounds so much better

@krell_fan1 and let me guess, a cat 6 cable in between the K41 and K22 😉

Since this is a "which streamer sounds better" thread, can you tell us what you had before as a streamer and how the sound you get now compares?