Sound and Music


I realize I’ve brought up this topic before but it is a crucial one.

Presumably we all on this forum are on it for enhanced sound quality. Yet most of us know that the real reward is listening to the MUSIC and then the sound. However there are times when that is NOT ENOUGH. Unlike many musicians, we have this bug tha t craves good sound. So, I guess it’s inevitable that many of us, without realizing it fall into the sound first trap, thus decreasing our enjoyment.

That would be me, how about you?

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Music is not only a pulse,vibration,beat,rythm, i felt in my body, nor it is only a timbre gorgeous auditive perception but it is a set of colors also visible as a dynamics distributed  in space as in a movie.

With high attention orchestral music is so fascinating for me because it tell a story more or less abstract, as in a movie. Choral music begin to be indicibly beautiful. Jazz more visceral or more abstract or even sometimes the two at the same time. Persian music and indian music are like philosophical treatise in sounds. The emotions are highly elevated.

Bruckner Fifth  symphony for example for me is an archetypal description of a human life from beginning to end...

Cannabis only increase this state but does not create it.  Deep Attention create it.

Then sound characteristic in space , their  timbre volume and colored dynamic, their fractals are more important than just sound superficial  isolated and measurable attribute : as bass, high, dynamic, transients and superficial attributes as imaging or soundstage etc Volume of playing instrument his projection in space matter more because in the imaging process the soundstage dimension must reproduce the dimensional distance between the sound source and the listener position and envelopment.  I used acoustic, mechanical and electrical embedding devices to increase or optimize this holographic reproduction of the initial recording acoustic specificities.

Acoustic rule audio not price tags...

Not at all RV. 90 % of my listening is in the shop to 4 old Mirage speakers, Adcom electronics, streamed from the main system. The speakers are put in the only location available for them which is way off axis and there is no listening position, background music only. The tone controls were used to give me a rough approximation of what I think I should be listening to. I have never measured the system, no need. The only attribute I cared about was volume and volume it has, to run over the din of machines, to be heard with hearing protection on. 

As I have said before, Music and sound are two separate issues. You can love music and not give a hoot about sound quality. Conversely, I know audiophiles whose collection consist mostly of audiophile specials. I know one audiophile who does not even have one classical record, or one Ornette Coleman record, just audiophile specials of popular music. and he has a $150,000 system. 

I am two completely separate personalities. The shop system is caked with dust. I vacuum it off once every blue moon. The main system is meticulously cared for. I have not adjusted the shop system in decades. The only control I've touched in decades is the volume and that includes the power switch. With the main system every single Hz is looked at and massaged, totally neurotic. The music lover in me will listen to anything, while the audiophile in me is hypercritical. Think about it. I study every stylus under high magnification before it ever touches a record. How neurotic is that? 

I am in the opposite crowd, a very sparse crowd...😁

The music lover in me is very critical in his choices...For musical reason....

The Audiophile in me will listen to almost anything or better say any styles or genres ( save commercial music which i confess to hate generally with few exceptions ,classical,jazz,persian,indian etc) because all recording original albums sound optimal in my system/room thanks to basic knowledge applied... My best music is the least studio processed...

Then before being hypercritical about a stylus i had investigated acoustics concepts by experiments and other mechanical and electrical devices control of my own...Hypercritical is a disease not a healthy attitude, using acoustics dont necessitate blinding obsession and gear obsessed focus...

hypercritical without creativity and basic knowledge is obsession...

And you are not wrong about the complete difference between sound and music , music is not acoustic and it is only a mere common place fact for sure; but this psychological opposite attitudes generally are prevalent among people ignoring acoustics concepts and basic controls and these two attitudes only reflect objective ignorance of acoustics associated with gear price tags obsession and focus in the audiophile crowd and for the opposite group associated with music as the only knowledge in musicians and average music lovers crowd...( acoustics with an (s) is not mere room acoustic by the way)

 

The music lover in me will listen to anything, while the audiophile in me is hypercritical. Think about it. I study every stylus under high magnification before it ever touches a record. How neurotic is that?

Try installing the Daniel Hertz Master Class player/software (small change in the world of audiophilia) and convert some cd rips . It is not snake oil. It has made a lot of albums more enjoyable for me, get more immersed into the music. The following vid should shed some light.

 

Levinson - what do audiophiles really want?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf4O6fiZ0ao

 

 

I was a "music lover" long before I built up an audiophile sound system. Now I am a "tinker, tailor, soldier, spy" out to uncover the most cryptic audiophile secrets.