Old phones as streaming sources


   I'm curious how many  of you have converted old phones to streamers. I have found  that when I remove the sim card and shut off blue tooth and wire the phone to a dac with an appropriate USB adapter cable, my old iphone 6s makes a pretty good streamer. Just wondering what others experiance has been. It is a really economical way to source digital to a 2nd or 3rd system. You can even cut electronic noise further by running on battery power when listening and shutting off the screen once the music is rolling. Going one step further would be to transfer local files to the phones memory and turn off wireless altogether. I have not done this but theoretically it should help. I usually just run the Qobuz app and stream from that to my Chord Mojo. What's your experiance?

 

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@soix 

You seem very angry.  I’ve complimented your decisions about your system, and i meant it!  But you’ve accused me of bad judgment, called me a fool, and described my well-supported opinions as absurd.  I’m pretty sure that we would find each other’s systems to be awesome.  So I’d recommend that you ratchet back the acrimony, and try to find the love of the hobby that we share.

A good quality DAC will not make up for deficiencies in the streamer and visa versa. 

well there it is! @ghdprentice has spoken! can’t believe we wasted our time on this topic.  thx so much for enlightening us!

Another thread derailed by predictable acrimony.  I’ve used a phone tethered to my DAC as a streamer just to experiment and yes, it sounded a lot better than I would have expected.  Would I want it as my everyday streamer?  No, it isn’t that good, and this is an audiophile site, where we all want the best.  I think that’s what others are saying here, but no one is proposing that’s phone is the ultimate streaming end point 

that’s an example of “petitio principii” (assuming the original point).  The OP and some others seem to have experienced quite good, “audiophile” results using their phones.  I myself would never use a phone as my streamer because a modern IPhone is overkill for what is actually a very simple process - assuming functions like reclocking, up sampling or DSP are done elsewhere - requiring a very simple computer.  Current iPhones run at 3.5 ghz, the Raspberry Pi is 1.5 ghz, and the Apollo 11 computer ran at .043 mhz (lol!).  

When I first got serious about streaming, I built my own RPi streamer as a learning experience.  I don’t think being an audiophile should be equated to some level of expenditure (though I’ve spent a fair amount, admittedly).  But I think alot of audiophiles are a little intimidated by servers, streamers and the like because they involve technology that is not intuitive for most of us.  And I believe that there are companies out there that take advantage of that, and market products that may not do what we want to believe they do.  

The number of times I hear non-experts (like me!) say that something is less noisy, or “lowers the noise floor”, and then dismiss actual test results showing something different is incalculable.  That’s why I think threads like this, conducted in a civil way, are important.  We should have these conversations.  That’s what audiophiles do.  Respectfully.