Do you think you need a subwoofer?


Why almost any one needs subwoofers in their audio systems?

I talk with my audio friends about and each one give me different answers, from: I don't need it, to : I love that.

Some of you use subwoofers and many do in the speakers forum and everywhere.

The question is: why we need subwoofers ? or don't?

My experience tell me that this subwoofers subject is a critical point in the music/sound reproduction in home audio systems.

What do you think?
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Dear friends: Along the other 2 Harman links I posted in this page this one could be interesting for almost all of us:

 

Harman How to Listen

 

R.

 

 

@mijostyn  : Balanced force in sub's is not something new, Thiel and ML did it along other manufacturer before.

 

" I am surprised that nobody is making cylindrical subwoofers. " , not today but in the past HSU was a proffesional proponent of that design and they manufactured subs's that gone as lower as usuable 4hz frequency.

In reality, it's almost nothing new about sub's but differences in its quality design implementation and digital crossover technology that in the past never been used.

 

R.

@rauliruegas I did not say it was new and I recommend ML subs all the time. KEF does it with the Blade.  Magico does it with their Q subs. 

I am not familiar with HSU, but good for them. You are also right that digital bass management with crossovers, room control and EQ have improved the situation greatly.

I have two Model 4 subwoofers up and running. They measure great with a slowly downward sloping curve from 100 Hz down. They are 3 dB down at 20 Hz. This is without correction, with the crossover deactivated. They do not shake or vibrate at all running a 20 Hz test tone and white noise at 90 dB which is as loud as I can go before things start falling off shelves. 

Got the Genelec 7360As integrated into my system just now. With GLM adjustments they're pretty good for my needs, especially mono stuff where the minor deficiencies in one channel offset the other. I'm sure I could improve it a bit if I adjusted placement a bit, but great for now. Bass presence is massively improved across the board, even with stuff with 'average' bass, e.g. bowed string bass. Glad I stumbled into this thread and thought it over! These things are incredible.