room setup suggesion needed

@mijostyn 

all great points and I agree with most of it as long as we talking about that low C on the pipe and not about death metal or grind core that also have to sound great!

the way I see it, is that there are variable in whole equation and rather you have too big room too small speakers too weak amp or any other not correct for conditions of the room combinations of above elements you won't be satisfied.

Now if system works great as is, sounds fantastic and than you take away subwoofers and its all dramatic, guess what you don't have speakers, if my issue is the fact that some frequencies are overlapping and I have to sit and pay attention when they overlapping because my ears are not the freshest, o well so be it.

Ive been listen stereo way before subwoofers were invented and I'm sure they have application somewhere, but not in my system, even at the price of not having 100% sonically correct sound.

and yes I agree manipulation of digital signal by software before decoding is far more superior than any other filters.

I am the lowest budget member here and I too benefit from subs, the cheapest you can buy. The depth of the soundstage just isn't there without the low end, the low end from a separate driver. 

@mijostyn  - I don't think it's an either or situation.  Bass traps help make EQ's more effective.  You can certainly get excellent results in cutting bass nodes with an EQ alone, but traps may help smooth out the bass in more areas on the room than just one, as well as make it possible to fix nulls somewhat better than with an EQ alone. 

The truth is it's often a matter of money and space that determines what we use.  EQ's are relatively inexpensive, and easy to hide.

@erik_squires Not my EQ Erik. Retail is now $15,000. Eq will not smooth out the nodes. It will flatten the frequency response at any given location in the room at the expense of a lot of power. Can you tell me what an 8 foot tall bass trap is going to do with a 32 foot wavelength? 

Low frequency sound waves are extremely powerful. 20 Hz at a very reasonable 80 dB will cause your entire house including the garage to buzz and rattle. Try trapping that. 

@mijostyn you are very correct 80 db at 25Hz from generator at my place is definitely loosing screws and retracting nails from lumber.

Again you are right, if anything than low headroom is my biggest challenge of them all. I do believe I have power and speakers to amplified that room with no problems, however finding perfect rehearsing position its becoming an issue.

I’m leaning to your opinion related to 8ft ceiling.