I am the lowest budget member here and I too benefit from subs, the cheapest you can buy. The depth of the soundstage just isn't there without the low end, the low end from a separate driver.
room setup suggesion needed
Hi everyone,
The question is for gurus of room setup.
Question is if anyone can suggest improvement of the situation where there is not much room for adjustment.
So there you go:
1) Room conditions
room size 30ft x 30ft
audio wall with the location near centerline
rehearsing distance from the wall 9ft
sound focal point with speakers directed 8ft sound cross path directly at rehearsal point ( not much room to adjust focal point could be pushed back max 3ft, not too happy about that idea)
speakers spread at 10ft center to center ( could be spread possibly to max 12ft with given wires)
speaker face 2ft off the wall less than 1ft space behind ( could be moved forward and tilted)
wall treatments floor dampening as well, floor standing speakers on spikes.
2) SYSTEM SPEC
speakers JBL 4367
speaker wires FURTECH Douglas 7ft be-wire Rhodium spades
Amp Pass Labs X250.8
Pre amp Pass Labs XP-12
Phono Pass Labs XP-15
Turntable VPI Classic 1 JMW 10.5 Hana ML
Server Mac mini
DAC Schiid Modius balanced out
inter connector cable Canari XLR
system fully balanced
power cables FURTEH
Honestly system sounds really good, but better is enemy of good so is there anything I can do better or is there anything that I'm doing wrong ?
Thanks for opinions!
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@mijostyn - I don't think it's an either or situation. Bass traps help make EQ's more effective. You can certainly get excellent results in cutting bass nodes with an EQ alone, but traps may help smooth out the bass in more areas on the room than just one, as well as make it possible to fix nulls somewhat better than with an EQ alone. The truth is it's often a matter of money and space that determines what we use. EQ's are relatively inexpensive, and easy to hide. |
@erik_squires Not my EQ Erik. Retail is now $15,000. Eq will not smooth out the nodes. It will flatten the frequency response at any given location in the room at the expense of a lot of power. Can you tell me what an 8 foot tall bass trap is going to do with a 32 foot wavelength? Low frequency sound waves are extremely powerful. 20 Hz at a very reasonable 80 dB will cause your entire house including the garage to buzz and rattle. Try trapping that. |
@mijostyn you are very correct 80 db at 25Hz from generator at my place is definitely loosing screws and retracting nails from lumber. Again you are right, if anything than low headroom is my biggest challenge of them all. I do believe I have power and speakers to amplified that room with no problems, however finding perfect rehearsing position its becoming an issue. I’m leaning to your opinion related to 8ft ceiling. |
Square rooms are tougher, acoustically. Consider the possibility of working a corner as the "center" of a stereo pair (as well as moving the speakers out from the "front" wall). Because you’ve referred to "rehearsal" space several times, I’m assuming you are playing instruments in the room with or without the hi-fi accompanying. Jim Smith’s book isn’t a bad place to start. Measurements are good but only as a starting point. I’ve had the same core components for a while, moved across the country, different room, different layout. Huge difference in sound (the current room sounds better than the old one). I don’t use a ton of acoustic treatment, mainly bass traps. Sonics are good, not only at the "sweet spot" but in seating pretty close to the back wall (which is filled with LPs). I’m no guru, just a longtime hobbyist. PS: I DSP'd my subwoofers, which do not run through the same circuit as my main loudspeakers (horn type, which solves some issues and creates other issues). |
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