Solo streamer

I agree with those who are recommending an upgrade of the DAC.  This will surely be your best bang for the buck.  I did a DAC upgrade it it's really like getting a whole new system.  That dramatic in my rig.  Good luck and cheers.  

@abnerjack

lol!  Yeah, the dogmatists on this forum have a hard time figuring out what to do with me.  They want to put me in a box that just doesn’t fit.  I am a tubes and vinyl guy who thinks that measurements can provide insight into what we hear.  I don’t think that measurements can possibly do full justice to what we hear in the analog realm, which includes DACs, of course.  I’ve been streaming for 30 years, and I don’t believe streamers matter if they meet certain basic engineering requirements, which can be measured.  And whenever we talk about noise, I think measurements give much more accurate insight than subjective listening tests, particularly for gear where the only known differences are noise (e.g., streamers, network switches, etc.)!  Radical positions, I know.

I recognize that my passion on this stuff can be off-putting to some.  I just see this area of the industry (streamers, etc.) as full of misinformation, and it drives me nuts.  I’ve seen no credible theoretical explanation of the differences among streamers other than jitter and power supply noise.  Indeed, manufacturers brag about their low jitter, low noise streamers, and yet give absolutely no data in their specs.  It’s easy to measure, so why wouldn’t they do that?  

The only consistent source of good data on this in the mainstream audio press is Paul Miller at HiFi News, and he shows no material differences in jitter across streamers that range in price from £500 to £33,000!  Even Stereophile has stayed away from this issue.  It’s a scandal, IMHO, but I’m the bad guy for trying to protect our community from this?  

So yeah, it’s a little frustrating.  But I figure it’s worth it if I provide an alternative view that helps a few members avoid making a mistake. 

Yeah, the dogmatists on this forum have a hard time figuring out what to do with me.  They want to put me in a box that just doesn’t fit. 

@mdalton  Yeah, the box you’re in is that you’re sadly incapable of hearing differences between streamers like almost all other people here very easily can and have, and as a result you’re reduced to only using a couple numbers to evaluate streamer performance.  That the vast majority of people here can easily hear differences between streamers is why your “alternative view” is just simply disregarded and will continue to be useless here, but you’re certainly free to keep spewing it and feeling frustrated if that’s your bag.  You think you’re providing some kinda service here by saying things like streamers have no sound when all you’re really doing is making yourself look utterly foolish to the vast majority here who’ve heard that to absolutely not be true with their own ears.  I’ll say again — they’ve heard significant differences between streamers with their own ears and spouting numbers will never overcome that so ultimately your little crusade here is just pointless.

@mdalton,

How is it being a dogmatist when you state, in your experience,
one streamer sounds better than another? Are those who say that, delusional or liars? Rather, isn’t it being a dogmatist to insist, in spite of observational evidence, that these observations are incorrect, but that statistics indicate the reality?

@abnerjack

see what I mean?  ad hominem.  

@soix @rvpiano

my listening obsevations  from 20 (not 30, sorry) years experience is that there are no differences.  And others on this forum have had the same experience.  so again, not fitting into your little box, sorry.