Step Up Transformers….Are they Worth the Trouble?


Some of you may aware of my Garrard 301 project, it’s now very close to completion. The plinth finally shipped from Hungry after 3 months of long wait.

Given my last experience with Hana Umami Red, I would like to take things to the next level. Which brings me to mating low output cart with a SUT. Every review I’ve read so far suggests when the SUT-MC match is right, the end result is heavenly. The bass is right, the midrange is clear, and most importantly, the highs are relaxed and extended—not rolled off.

I am not saying you can’t get great sound without a SUT but it appears with a properly matched SUT, sound can be quite magical.

Thought this would be the right time to get input from experienced users here since I am still contemplating my cartridge and outboard phonostage options.

My preference would be to go with a tube phono…I kinda miss tinkering with tubes :-)

My system, Garrard 301 (fully refurbished), Reed 3P tonearm, Accuphase E-650 with built-in AD50 analog board ➡️ Tannoy Canterbury’s.

Cart and phono under consideration through my dealer,

Fuuga - Output : 0.35 mVrms | Impedance : 2.5 Ω (1kHz)

Phonostage - Tron Convergence and Konus Audio Phono Series 1000

The cart - MC combination, I am lusting after is Etsuro Urushi Bordeaux MC with their Etsuro Transformer.
https://www.etsurojapan.com/product/bordeaux

The other transformer is EMIA, cooper or silver version.

Your input is appreciated!

128x128lalitk

“the EQVES line has become a successful example of devices with which you can color your analog system. "

If that " color " is what you want, that’s it

Btw, do you know why Excel did not choosed ruby material in the cantilevers in its own cartridges been the manufacturer of Etsuro and instead used BORON material?. Very simple ruby has not the superlative characteristic as boron or diamond in catilevers and Etsuro choosed ruby, ??? ? ! ! I mentioned these twice in other threads. Good luck with.”

@rauliruegas

I must say, your posts here and elsewhere adds nothing but mass confusion. As evident from many of your posts, you’re quick to criticize other posters choices and manufacturer design philosophy. This kind of behavior is a classic example of a narcissistic personality.

This is a shared learning environment, we should always respect the views of other participants even if you don’t agree with them. Moving forward, If you cannot respect others opinion and choices, all I can ask and hope for some civility in your posts.

As far as your negative comments about Etsuro,

Cartridges manufacturer uses different materials for cantilevers depending on the specific design and intended performance characteristics of the cartridge. The choice between ruby, boron, or diamond as cantilever materials is not solely based on the “superlative” qualities of one material over another but rather on how each material’s properties align with the design goals for the cartridge.

The choice of cantilever material is a balancing act between performance, cost, and the desired sound signature. While boron may offer technical superiority in some aspects, ruby provides a unique character that appeals to certain listeners and aligns with the luxury branding of products like those from Etsuro.

@lalitk 

Back from my two-day trip.  Before doing anything else I tried different ground scheme vs my prior SUT.  Added ground between phono stage and SUT (in addition to tonearm and SUT).  Hum pretty much gone!  (consistent with @mulveling prediction). Sound is remarkable - intuition that Rothwell wasn’t fully showcasing the Koetsu was correct (duh, I know).  Consistent with my first impression, way more dynamic, but still lush, which is cool combo.  

Still in conversation with dealer whether I should change setting to lower ratio - seems like manufacturer is not convinced that’s the right move.  Will see….

@lalitk I know Raul really well. His English is not so hot and at times he comes across as a bit odd. He is anything but narcissistic and his knowledge of cartridges is unsurpassed. 

I for one do not like equipment editorializing. I want to know exactly what is on the record and nothing else. On the very best systems colored equipment always shows itself as flawed. Sometimes these flaws can be corrected, most of the time not. Very few cartridges are perfect so we are stuck choosing our poison especially when we are spending less than $6000. 

I have had SUTs and both SS and tube phono stages. IMHO, and I am sure @rauliruegas will agree. The best SS phono stages are the most uncolored and quiet of the lot. Check out units from Sutherland, Channel D, CH Precision and Pass labs. 

People are entitled to listen to whatever they want, but in my experience when presented with an accurate system capable of realistic levels without distortion and bass to match, all are in awe.