I Sold my CD Player!!! Streaming sounds so incredible!!!


Several years ago, was the very first time I had the opportunity to hear a very high end, high quality, streaming audio system.  Once I heard it, I was smitten, and I knew right then and there that this was me all the way!!!  I was absolutely blown away by the handy convenience of the little iPad (or cell phone) used as remotes to control the otherworldly access to a virtual ocean of music via Tidal, Qobuz or downloads.  I immediately recognized this new technology as the future of my own audio system, especially with all the new hi rez stuff out there that was now made available. I gave up vinyl when CD came on the scene (yes, I'm an old guy), and, now, perhaps, it would be finally time to retire my beloved CD player.  Long story short:  What put my streaming audio system over the top, as far as sound quality is concerned, was the assemblage of these core streaming devices-----( #1) A superb DAC, by Ayre Acoustics QX-5 Twenty streaming DAC  (#2)  An outstanding music server, by Roon Nucleus Plus  (#3) An outstanding Audio Switch, by Pakedge Devices   (#4) Excellent Ethernet Cables, by Shunyata Sigma.  I also utilize numerous other tweaks and filters that further purify the streaming audio signal within my room and audio system.  At this juncture in life, I am just mesmerized by the combination of sound quality and convenience that I get through my streaming audio system.  I'm also happy and pleased to report that, I don't miss my old beloved CD player one bit.  Happy listening.              

kennymacc

It turns out that there isn’t a single software program that I’ve encountered-and I’ve tried many, including Roon-that can organize Classical Music. I can find CDs faster on my shelf than in the media libraries.

There was some method to the madness on how physical CDs were organized on the shelves. Set up a categorized folder tree (on NAS) that mimics your preference for sorting/viewing/browsing. Browse by folder only, i e., navigate through the folder tree you set up to locate your music. If your software restricts you from doing the latter (a simple browse by folder), throw it in the garbage.

Roon..or Schloon can’t cater a whole lot to your personal tastes when a collection becomes too big...only you can organize folder trees to your personal taste.

I remember back in the 1980's when CDs became popular and the belief was that turntables would no longer be necessary. Today turntables and vinyl are more popular than ever.  When streaming became the new norm the belief was that CD players had become outdated, yet there are still millions in use.  When people have a lot of money invested in their physical music media, they are not going to discard it simply because a newer technology happens to come along.  While I do find streaming to be very convenient I still prefer listening to quality CDs through my vintage Naim CDi.  😊

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@echolane 

  Last week I tried to find Sviatislav Richter RCA recording of Bach Well Tempered Clavier Books I and II on my streamer.  My software is mconnect and Cambridge Audio Stream Magic.  I know that I had ripped it to the NAS.

  I have something like 17 tabs for the composer in both programs.  He is listed as Bach, JS; JD Bach; Bach with his birth date; Bach, J.S with his death date; and multiple other ways. The 100 or so Bach albums that I’ve ripped to the NAS are all dispersed amongst the various tabs.  Different discs from multi disc set are in different tabs.  If I want to play the 3 discs from St Matthew Passion I need to find it in 3 different tabs.  Guess what?  After checking all of these tabs, the Richter recording isn’t in any of them!  Nor does searching by Artist-enter Sviatislav, Richter, or all the possible combinations-bring it up.

  I go to my CD shelves, which I organized over the 30+ years of buying CDs.  I look under JS Bach, who is in the B section, find the CD set, pull it out and play it, and in 10 seconds I have music.  I had just fruitlessly waisted 15 minutes in the thickets of streamer software.

  The same problem exists with Mahler, Beethoven, Mozart, etc.  As for multi composer discs, don’t ask.

  So I again burn the Richter discs.  The Melco N 100 will usually give me a message if the disc already exists in the database; none occurs.  Again the discs don’t show up in any of the tabs except for “recently added”.

 

  So make a playlist, you say.  So I did.  I created a playlist and named it “Sviatislav Richter”.  I had to add each track individually.48 Preludes and Fugues.  96 tracks.  A couple of times my wife interrupted me, I lost concentration, made a few mistakes in the order.  then had to add/delete/reorder…. I could have gone to my shelf about 10,000 times and pulled the CD off and replaced it in the time it took to search these tabs and make the playlist.

  Buy Roon and your troubles are solved, you say.  I did a one week trial a few years back and it maybe made things maybe 10% better.  I thought the SQ took about a 10% dip.  Decided against the lifetime $500 fee. YMMV.

  Regarding the commercial services, I have had several discs, usually Nonesuch recordings, go in and out of the catalog in a few months time. Joshua Rifkin Scott Joplin recordings originally were on 3 LPs and were eventually, briefly reissued on 3 CDs.  After enjoying them on Qobuz for a month or so they disappeared.  Emails to Qobuz went unanswered.  One of the albums reappeared after a month and then disappeared a few weeks later.  Same with Karl Ristenpart Bach recordings.  I eventually purchased all of these as second hand CDs, downloads, or LPs, depending upon availability.

  My physical media are fairly well organized, and I can find them easily.  Classical Music just doesn’t fit music file systems, which were all designed to other genres.  I’ve tried several others besides the ones mentioned above.

I haven’t even gone into the issues that I had with with Bluesound Node, which became hung up for weeks doing and update, or the Bryston BDP3, which relies upon a software program that is unusable for any genre.

  So my experience is atypical but for me streaming has been a frustrating, cumbersome experience.  Nothing beats the plug and play of a CD player, and SQ is equal.

  I just want to enjoy listening to music without having to learn how to become an IT Consultant in the process 

.I’m amazed that analog works at all...dragging a tiny MC stylus through some plastic...amazing.

+1 @wolf_garcia It is amazing. I always equate it to riding roller coasters to make music. Plus it’s still a somewhat popular thing which is even more amazing.

Like you I listen to Classical Music, both opera and classical music. As an audiophile with a very well outfitted Roon system and duplicated on the Naim Uniti Core that I started on by ripping my CD collection and editing the metadata and with a CD Collection of over 4000 albums,

Hmmm, what the hell am I missing here?

When you all rip your 4000 cds or 10000 cds, do you throw the files willy nelly into a nas drive (hoping metadata will save you) OR do you organize a folder tree by root folder genre --’>> Artist name folder (alphabetical) ---->> Album names folder?? ....which is how cds or vinyl sits in the racks

If the Metadata tracker fails, why can’t you all simply browse by folder to get to your favorite song bird for the day? Seems like a common sense thought process/solution is getting buried by promise of a failed "Metadata" miracle....