Is "detailed" audiophile code for too much treble?


When I listen to speakers or components that are described as "detailed". I usually find them to be "bright". I like a balanced response and if there is an emphasis, I prefer a little more mid-bass.

 

It is a question, what say you all?

g2the2nd

It can be, but there’s no standard in audiophile lingo, so it depends on who’s using the term, and how. "Detailed" can be good, or it can mean too detailed. I think maybe "hot" might be less confusing descriptor of too bright, too detailed, too much treble, etc.  When I hear the term "hot" I always know they mean treble that's unpleasant.

Bright can come through in a few ways to me. Treble boost is one of them, and it gets fatiguing after a while. It’s a fairly common tactic with some speaker brands so they stand out more in the store, but it’s usually a short lived novelty.

Sometimes the perception of brightness is not an actual boost in frequency response, it’s simply treble that’s sloppy, etched, or smeared that can result in sibilance, emphasis of certain vocal consonants, splashy cymbals, etc., There’s a bunch of possible causes, but it’s often from overstressed tweeters in their lower range due to poor crossover or other design choices. It can also come from inferior crossover parts and connections, baffle reflections, phase shifts due to placement, and a slew of other less than optimal circumstances. Sometimes it’s just poor synergy across the board. Either way, it’s been a show stopper for me for a long time, and I’ve spent a lot of time trying to eliminate potential causes without loosing the natural open treble with a sense of air and space that comes from really good treble.

Another  visual analogy:  The best portraits are hardly ever over lit.   Light levels set the mood.  Same with higher frequencies in audio.  
 

For example, Audio Research does tend to do a good job in presenting detail without overdoing it to the point of becoming fatiguing as indicated above. 
 

 

I don't know whay, but I enjoy a detailed presentation.  I lucked into a slew of vintage 6SN7 pairs and I was rolling them in the balanced input sockets of my preamp, and the ones that made the biggest positive impression on me were the ones that brought out the most detail.  But that could be just a thing with me.

I always thought of "bright" as kind of a harsh treble.  Maybe a treble that is too "sparkly."

To me, "hot" kind of means an up front/in your face presentation, and for some recordings it works well for me.  But that's something that a little bit will go too far in a hurry.  I wouldn't call my own system "hot," but I certainly own at least a few recordings that I consider to be "hot."

Well, you like what you like, and that's about all to be said.  Happy listening.