Cary SLP98L upgrades--yea or nay?


I like this venerable (and recently discontinued?) pre-amp and don't have any plans to swap it out any time soon. As I plan to keep it, I'm curious whether folks think that the Cary upgrade is worth it, and I'd appreciate any advice from those who have done it. (I know the F1 mods were popular.) Specifically:

-- They offer Mundorf MCap SUPREME EVO SilverGold Capacitors. Two versions, one with oil (+$20). I've read mostly good things about these. Do I want them--and do I want oil? 

--Hexfred rectifiers. I've read a couple mixed things about these. Are they an improvement?

--Kimber Kable ($150/input; I'd only do one input). Okay--I like Kimber Kable ... but will I hear any difference?

I'm sure there are other/better preamps out there, but I like this little guy and I'm not looking for recommendations or esoteric mods. If these upgrades are ... really upgrades, it's a modest investment and I'd be interested in hearing the difference. I'm also interested in trying out some different tubes, but I'll save that question for another day...

Thanks!

northman

"I like the sound overall and would be a bit cautious about a modification that might change its character drastically."

^^^ That's exactly the context for my post, and I appreciate your clear articulation of it. Dry, lean, and harsh ... would be a big step backward for me. I've mostly read positive things about Mundorfs, but I've also heard some negative comments. Thank you for your response!

I had a Cary SLP98 with the F1 upgrade. Without a doubt it was my best preamp.

Thanks, Russ. I've read a lot about the F1. I think it's close to what Cary offers but with different caps. 

I wonder if I could find a tech who could reproduce the F1 upgrade....

@northman yes, your list +Grayhill switch selector.

These upgrades and different tubes can yield good results in different ways. Having tried rare vintage NOS quads, new re-issues, and some of the new boutique 6SN7s, the sound will change, and more so with good caps installed in your SLP-98L. 

 

Easily reversible upgrades, such as trying different tubes would be the best way to start your upgrade path.  If ANY upgrade changes the sound, which it should, that change can be for the better or worse, depending on your system and your taste.  that is why something like trying different tubes is the best approach.  There are many vintage tubes to try.  While it is hard to verify that any old tube is truly new old stock (never been run except to test), those that test strong tend to  be quite long lasting anyway.

The effect of any capacitor change is much harder to predict.  Even when really good capacitors replace lower cost, supposedly inferior capacitors, the result may not be an improvement; good designers voice their components with particular parts choices.  Many years ago, the "hot" capacitor, particularly for coupling capacitors, were "Blackgate" capacitors.  In the right circuit, they are indeed very good and worth their steep price.  I heard an amp from a custom builder that the builder asked me to listen and give my opinion.  I was quite reluctant to inform him that this amp was WAY off of his best efforts.  He laughed because it was one of his amps that had been brought in to undo the "upgrades" that another company did.  These upgrades included Blackgates and other fancy parts like Vishay foil resistors.  The same builder did use Blackgates in some of his amps where such sounded right.  In one amp, the buyer complained that the amp did not sound as good as it did in the builder's shop.  The builder went to the buyer's home and heard it and agreed that it did not sound that good.  They went to get some coffee and when they got back, the amp, which had been on all that time sounded great.  It turned out that the buyer, a very busy surgeon, only listened in short intervals so he did not hear the amp fully warmed up.  The builder replaced the Blackgates with something else that warmed up quicker.  Parts choice and design can be quite tricky.