ATN160ml Beryllium MicroLine Stylus on AT150e body

Dear @westcoastaudiophile   " AT150E/Ea/......"

I'm sorry but you have a misunderstood about that those ones are a little " better " than the 160ML, let me explain it:

the 150E was designed in November 1979, the 150Ea in April 1983 and the 160ML in December 1982. 

The inductance is the same in the 150E and the 160ML and a tiny lower in the 150Ea however the Frequency Response in the AT 160 ML is way better than in both 150E/Ea: 5hz to 35khz in the 160ML against 10hz to 23khz in the 150EA.

Now, those cartridges came with the same cartridge body shape but the cartridge motor in the 160 is way better and with higuer quality level performance.

I owned all those models and still own the 160, even the 150MLX can't outperform the 160 and its spec is short to: 10hz-30khz.

In many ways the 160 can even and beats the 170/180ML that I still own too.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,

R.

so maybe I'll keep my eye out for a true 160 body, with or without a stylus.

@rauliruegas dear Raul, thanks for your response! All I tried to explain was a 160ml requires more attention to phono-cable&pre, and using 160ml stylus in 150e body might will work better in some scenarios.. also, subsonic cut-off filter most likely will be needed w/160ml as well. As of AT-ML180/OCC, this is the best sounding/measuring AT MM cart out all other MMs in my collection, not sure why it is not the case in your setup. ML180 diamond is the finest under my Zeiss microscope as well. //regards

a few random finds to share

Fm ronco on audiogon

On a tangental note, I have fallen in love with Beryllium cantilever stylii.  ........ I'm listening to "LA 4  Scores!" as I type.  Might as well be in the club with them:-)

Cantilever Info from Orbray, formerly Adamant Namiki (2023, long after beryllium was discontinued)

https://orbray.com/en/product/jewel/product/cantilever.html

Dr Tominari of Dynavector Systems Interview

https://www.dynavector.com/pdf/hifiplus_issue8_40-48_dynavector.pdf

@westcoastaudiophile  :No it is not ( at least in my system ) and obviously the use of  subsonic cut-off filter is not necessary . Btw,all those AT cartridges runs according the AT spec in capacitance:100pf-200pf range.

Yes the 170and 180 are truly good motors and overall with an excellent quality level performance and NO the 160 does not beats either but even some characteristics and the 160 low/deep bass is a little better that's all.

R.