If anyone is still looking for a SLP-98

decooney

Thanks. What you're saying is pretty much what I gather from all the study that I've put into this preamp. At least this one comes with the upgrades and is further upgraded than some with the Lundahl step up. I could be mistaken on the Jensen caps and may have read it on another or in talking to Cary. I can't find it in my notes on this one so not sure. I'll open it up when I get it to see what is inside. 

This one has been sitting on the shelf for the better part of 5 years. I am buying it from the 2nd owner who bought it to pair with a Cary tube amp 12 something or other. I pay little attention to amps so don't remember the model #s. His Cary amp started to act up and needed repair so he barely got to try the SLP 98. I think he said he only put a few hours on it and probably wasn't overly impressed since it had stock tubes that only had 10 hours on them. I remember that feeling with my PH301. I could tell that it was special but Chinese and Yugo tubes had to go. Virtually every vintage tube was better than either the Chinese, or Yugo EI's. 

@billpete ...2nd owner who bought it to pair with a Cary tube amp 12 something or other.

Probably either the Cary V12, 12i, 12R amp, and I owned one for many years along with a few colleagues. Without a good local tech or Cary agreeing to service the 87lb monster, this happens. Many paired the SLP-98 pre with it or still do.

Maybe you could just plug it in and let it play on/off for a week solid, and make sure all is okay and nothing shorts out. Let those EH tubes burn, some say they are "okay" with more time, yet I will say I tried mine for a while and did not enjoy them. 

For an entirely different thread, or you can search old threads - many of us have posts out there about our batches of vintage and/or new re-issue 6SN7s. PSVANE direct (mfg) just sent me some replacement CV-181TIIs I like quite a bit, and I still have a few quads of TJ Full Music 6SN7s I run in my SLP-98L now. Mix them too.

Sounds as good or better than many of my vintage ones. The TJFMs (now sold to PSVANE Co.) have lasted well last 2 years, and time will tell on the new PSVANEs. I helped a friend with his integrated amp and we recently installed the new Horizon series in his. A little more detailed than former versions. With these, I keep my vintage 6SN7s mothballed and stored away and break them out once a year fwiw.

Yes, V12. He said it was a heavy monster. 

Will post when I get the SLP, should be next week.

The SLP-98P F1 is a very nice little preamp.  The jaguar red is especially beautiful I always thought. My favorite color on the Cary equipment. 
Cary Audio only used the Jensen oil caps as an upgrade (early oils were Audio 1’s), otherwise it was polypropylene. Eventually moving into the Mondorf’s.  The Jensen oil caps are a bit more laid-back and tame compared to polypropylene’s, which are typically more detailed and airy.  It’s all going to depend on the rest of your system and your taste.  Also polypropylene caps last longer than oil. Oil caps last about 5 to 10 years and may start leaking or dry up.  The leaky issues are more on amps with higher voltages than on the preamps though.  
Hexfred’s I thought we’re great upgrades on these. Upgrading from the standard diodes to the hexfred’s you’ll notice more detail and faster bass. The SLP-98 has always had solid state rectification, which does not mean it’s a hybrid. Hybrid has to do with the actual analog circuit not the power supply.  
The SLP-98P F1 can still be taken a lot further in sound quality with some power supply upgrades and even better coupling caps.  Installing some large10uf polypropylene bypass caps on all the PS electrolytic caps makes a big improvement.  We always used Solan as they are a good size and fit well.  The F1 should have Kimber Kable in it but maybe not.  Upgrading to a good quality wire makes a big difference inside.  The only thing I didn’t like about the Kimber was it’s not shielded and consequently, picked up information from the other inputs wiring if a source was still on. Now days, I’d look at some good shielded OCC wire. 
As for tubes, I always thought JJ was crap. Sorry but just my opinion.  EH are Russian and tend to be a more on the hard/bittle bright side for my taste. Old 6SN7 Sylvania’s are fantastic for detail or RCA for more smooth body.  Also Tungsol, etc. 

There’s not a ton of room inside of the SLP 98P F1.  It’s pretty jammed in there already so there’s not a lot of room for huge upgrades.  Adding the Solen 10uf Polypropylene’s caps will help a lot. 4 in the preamp and a couple in the PS.  And the PS I used to always at a couple of higher quality .22uf propylenes to bypass the Solen’s.  Really makes the power supply cleaner and improves not only imaging and that blacker background but bass improves  

Somebody else mentioned they had an SLP 05. It’s super important to match the gain of the tubes to get correct channel balance.  I used to do this on the bench with a scope and meter but it can be done with just a meter and a signal generator or CD player with a 1K sign wave CD into the single-ended inputs.  There are trim pots inside the unit, which has to be opened up and turned upside down to get to the pots that are mounted on the pc board.  Those trim pots adjust the volume to the rear negative phase tubes.  First make sure the two positive phase tubes are putting out equal gain by measuring the output with the volume control turned all the way up.  Once they’re equal then you adjust the negative phase trim pot to match the volume of the positive phase tube that’s in the front tube socket. You do this for the left side and then the right side until you have all four phases of equal output voltage.  DONT TOUCH THESE TUBES NOW.  LEAVE THEM IN PLACE. Now you move on to the balanced inputs. if your DAC has balanced outputs it’s perfect.  You can play the 1K sign wave into the balanced inputs and swap tubes until you have equal output voltage on all four phases.  Yes there’s a bit to this.  And this is why most people send it in to have it done but you can’t do that every time you want to swap tubes around so hopefully this will help somebody.  When ordering tubes it’s important to ask for tubes that are matched for output/gain.  This will make everything much easier.  Especially for those two front line level positive phase tubes and the two balanced input tubes.  BUT every time you change the line stage tubes (not the balanced input tubes) the negative phase trim pots will always need to be adjusted to match the positive phase tubes, otherwise the negative phase may be louder than the positive phase or way too quiet and not canceling out noise correctly and the volume into your balanced amplifier won’t have the same channel balance.

Thanks guys. You are an absolute wealth of information. I look forward to having the SLP in my system and more discussion to follow. Many thanks.