Chinese DAC's


I have been looking at several DAC's trying to decide which one to put in my system.  Some of those DAC's I'm looking at  are built and designed in China.  Without getting political I don't think trade with China will ever be the same.  I hope that these engineers are able to get there products to market.  It would sure be a waste of talent.

brbrock

@freediver "It is a COMMON PROPAGANDIST PLOY to hide political statements with platitudes..The very statements "I don't think trade with China will ever be the same.  I hope that these engineers are able to get there products to market."are subtle but definite references to political based policies!"


What an odd post. Are you not feeling well today?

@mahgister : "

"Wise post!
I dont need to write anything more..."

And then......?
Seriously though, rather than look at poor Topping Dacs, if you want to look at real high quality Chinese Dacs look at Audio Music Dac/1.

i dont have topping dac, i own a french NOS dac and a Hidiz dac...

And a very costly dac as you suggested dont couple well with low cost products...

i am interested more  by acoustics basic than by gear pieces...budget command and knowledge beat upgrades if not it replace it with a satisfying alternative.

 

 

@mahgister : "

"Wise post!
I dont need to write anything more..."

And then......?
Seriously though, rather than look at poor Topping Dacs, if you want to look at real high quality Chinese Dacs look at Audio Music Dac/1.

 

 

I bought my Chinese made Gustard X26 Pro on Amazon a few years back.  I enjoy the clarity and soundstage I get, particularly using the I2S input.  In my room it sounded better than a Chord Cutest and a similarly priced Benchmark.  

I just got on Amazon and looked at the prices and I don't think they have gone up on Gustard products since the tariffs. 

I assume you all know that you can audition a Gustard DAC at home and if you don't like it you can drop it off at Whole Foods (at least in the US) 

@panzrwagn 

Spot on.  That is why most of the non-US world uses the value added during its contribution to the production of an item as the basis for revenue collection.  In Europe it is called a Value-Added Tax (VAT) and in Australia it is a flat 10% Goods and Services Tax (GST).

For example, if I assemble a product and sell it for $1,000 I have to add 10% GST ($100) and remit the GST to the government.  If the parts cost say $400 I have to pay my suppliers $40 extra for GST, but I get that back when squaring up with the government.  My value add is $600 and the net tax on my contribution is $60.  Every contributor wherever they are located only gets slugged for their bit!

Australia’s GST applies to everything with the exception of some essentials like food.  It is collected by the federal government but given to the states to spend!  There is no sales tax.

Private imports are normally at a 10% advantage compared with local products, because it is not worth the hassle of collecting GST on small items - around $1,000.  So we actually subsidise most US imports.  And we buy much more from the US than we sell to the US.

Our economists have worked out that so-called ’tariffs’ ascribed to countries are actually the ratio of trade imbalance to total trade - not actual financial imposts at all.

I agree that the world will never be the same again.  Short term we are pleased the US banned our beef because the Chinese are now taking it all to replace US beef, and paying 40% more.  Unintended consequencies indeed!