Attention Horn Owners


Hey guys. I’m in the middle of making a few changes and seek your wisdom and help. Doing my research for speakers, I currently own Audio Note e/lx, and I think I might need a little more bass presence. These are wonderful, natural sounding speakers but I’m debating a change. Slightly more efficient would be nice, the AN’s are listed at 94db but some say measure closer to 92db. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 
Now for the post title. Doing my research I came across Volti. I like purchasing American made when I can, my amp and preamp are Aric Audio. I’ve never heard a horn speaker before. Reviews of some say they tend to be bright, which is a no go for my sensitive ears. Reviews did mention that Volti are not bright. So, any comments regarding ear fatigue and horn speakers or Volti speakers would be fantastic. 
‘Finally, I live on Long Island. If there is any nearby who would be kind enough to allow me to listen to a horn speaker, there’s a six pack or bottle of wine in it for you! lol. I’d love to hear a pair before I spend 1 million hours researching different ones. Thanks in advance. Earthbound

earthbound

Makes me wonder if replacing some of the internal driver wire in the Cornwall's with some vintage "Western Electric" wire might be interesting. 

The only way to know is to do a trial.  Any change in sound could be for better or worse, depending on one's taste and the set of other components.  If you are really able to get vintage Western Electric are, you are looking for old, multi-strand wire with cloth insulation.  I know a builder who, when he finds the stuff he likes, will pay well north of $10k for a 6" spool of the stuff.  This builder generally builds with Western Electric or Audio Note speaker wire, and both options are very expensive.  

@sns wrote:

With the modded Khorns hard pinned info really extends into room, but at the same time I have a wonderfully deep center sound stage which can also extend out into room. I’ve had narrow baffle box loudspeakers in the past which made speaker disappear, with the large Khorns this really not possible. One of the great benefits of my mods is that I’ve been able to achieve much better time alignment of drivers. With the free standing mid horn and tweeter I can set tweeter baffle back from front face of speaker, result is high freq much more in balance with mids, when Khorns were stock sound stage was much more in your face and hot. I can also toe in or out both mid driver and tweeter without disturbing the corner placement/seal which is required for the folded horn to perform best.

What you describe confirms what I’ve expected, that the performance of the Khorns can be seriously "elevated" upgrading the midrange horn/driver and tweeter ditto - incl. of course the crossover. I previously owned a pair of Simon Mears Audio Uccello’s, which are an homage to the Klipsch Belle speakers built completely from ground up with CNC-machined stacked plywood Tractrix horns, B&C midrange (DCM50) and tweeter (DE10) drivers, the cast frame 15" Crites woofer (1526C) and (modified) ALK crossovers. Lovely speakers and beautiful craftsmanship. They produced some of the best midrange I’ve ever heard and that tuneful front horn-loaded bass that’s a treat, but eventually the truncated bass horn resulted in upper bass colorations (and the lack of proper physical height of the speakers made for a fairly low acoustic center), which - initially just as an experiment - made me seek another, actively configured main speaker option. However, modified Khorns would be another great path to pursue, though I’d go with active config. that also offers delay settings and minute frequency response corrections/notches and other PEQ’s.

No doubt horn material matters greatly, far more natural sounding vs. plastic or the metal mid my Khorns originally had. Shape of horn also matters in that it directs the sound, tractrix far superior to exponential. 

Solid wood is one of the best choices of material for horns, for sure. Apart from the horn profile, as mentioned earlier, its size (in relation to the profile) is also an important sonic determinant and factor and what it means for proper power response and energy coherency, not least in the vital crossover region centered in the lower to central mids. 

Finally, in order to achieve a more refined or natural sound quality from horns a quality crossover is required, using quality caps, inductors, resistors if used and wire can go a long way in achieving this. 

In addition to ways to tweak the overall nature or gestalt of the sound with the filter components and cables used and their own, specific sonic particularities. 

As for amps, pre’s, I think SET is great match for most high efficiency horns although push pulls can be very nice as well. SET may be more immediate/up front but the lovely 300B with no negative feedback and it’s even order harmonic distortion is sublime.

The 300B’s were a great combo with the passively configured Uccello’s mentioned above. With my current, actively config. high eff. speaker setup I prefer topologically similar (though power differentiated) class A/B SS amplification by MC² Audio from the top all the way down into the subs. 

@phusis Never considered going active although sounds interesting, I stuck with the Type A shallow slope design, reportedly most basic and best sounding of the shallow slope. I considered the ALK steep slope design but a good mid driver can extend freq. I hear you on physical size of speakers affecting image and sound stage dimensions and size. 

 

I use the Duelund tin plated copper in my point to point wired crossover, this after researching it vs the Western Electric wire, very satisfied with natural timbre of this wire.

The newest Khorn and Lascala are optionally available with a crossover for tri-amping......plus other changes/updates. I feel they should offer the newest of the two with the simple, single amp crossover. Simplify the connection for a single amp setup, which is fine for me.