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Stranded vs singal core conductors and skin effect

Yea, Yea, I did a search. I did find similar topics, but I still don't know which solution is preferable. Many mega-buck cables utilize solid core. Is solid core a better solution (conductor, etc.)? Isn't it the geometry (twisting, braiding, etc.) that addresses the skin effect issues? Are there other scientific reasons for utilizing stranded wire vs singal core? I am really considering making some DIY speaker cables. If for no other reason, than just for kicks - sounds kind of fun. I have read up on so many different theories. I realize that inductance and resistance are extremely important factors, as well as capitance, and for whatever reason, it must be a challange to design a cable with extreamly low measurments in all three categories?? I don't really fully understand why. HOLD ON - I don't want a complete lesson here. I'm just seeking some input from the engineering-minded or the knowledgeable DIY community as to which type of wire offers the best conductivity (and other factors??) for designing a DIY speaker cable. Additionally, which geometry is the preferred method?
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photon46
1,089 posts
 
Now you're talkin'. Room treatments potentially offer an upgrade of considerable impact for not much dinero if you go the DIY route. Acoustimac.com and other internet outlets are where you need to look for DIY supplies. After making four DIY bass traps, I couldn't believe how much improvement was realized for a weekends work and minimal cash outlay.
palerider
46 posts
 
There`s a lot of legends around this theme. One is that thicker cores gives skin-effect, that`s just a farytale as long as we talk about audio frequenses.
In princip there should be no multicore anywhere in a system if you want the ultimate. Not only do the signal run blindly between the different conductors and by that generating a lot of distortion/energy loss, houndreds og hairthin conductors do not work as well as onr thick even if it does teoreticly.

I`ve done a lot of research on this, in any level from ic`s to powercords. Not any solid conductor will do, the best stranded might outperform some solids. Flat/foil is not optimal, even if the legend tells so.
The whole powercircuit from trafo secondarys and all the way into the speakers voice-coil should are were sensitive to resistance and should be done in heavy gauge solid core. One of my best uppgrades was a set of custom-built trafor for my poweramp, completed with a set of solid core powercords.
face
516 posts
 
I found Kimber 4TC lifeless in my rig, your mileage may vary though.
trelja
3,226 posts
 
"I am an engineer." So am I.

Don't ever let anyone hit you over the head with college degrees, experience, or whatever. In other words, you don't have to be a cook to know what things taste like. Try things out, and come to your own conclusions. Regardless of how things measure, I've learned enough to know that my ears are the most important piece of equipment I will likely ever come across. If you hear the difference, it is real.
inpepinnovations
134 posts
 
Trelja, So am I, an engineer, that is and an amateur cook. About tasting, it is easy to get people to think that there is a difference in the taste of different salts and inevitably those people do 'taste' a difference, when, unless the salt has been deliberatly doctored, there is no difference. So careful with analogies.

I have also learned that my ears-mind are also easily fooled and therefore not always reliable for detecting differences even when they are real, nevermind when they aren't real.

I do understand, however, the expression, 'perception is reality' and perhaps that that is what you mean.

Respectfully, Bob P.
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