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I am stunned

After reading these forums for awhile I can finally say that I am a skeptic no longer with respect to biwiring. I recently purchased a demo pair of Martin Logans from a local dealer and found that I did not have enough money to purchase a decent set of speaker cables. As I was getting ready to take the speakers home the dealer stopped me and offered to loan me a set of cables until I had enough cash (Great Dealer!!!) to purchase some cables. Well, when I got home I discovered that the Logans were easily biwirable and that the cables he lent me were biwire cables. When I auditioned the Logans the dealer must have connected the jumpers when I told him I was not interested in biwiring a set of speakers. I figured what the hell, lets give it a try. I connected everything up, popped in a CD and my mouth fell to the floor. Unbelievable. So from one ex-skeptic to anyone who has a doubt. Biwiring works, I am an EE and frankly do not care why anymore.
liguy
paulwp
585 posts
 
Chris, yes I suggested to Doug S that he try it on the last bi-wiring thread. It's as safe as leaving both straps in, which is safe as long as you dont cross positive and negative. Jon Risch, who recommends trying it says its system dependent and may or may not yield any benefit.

I think the majority of people who have tried it have said it sounds better that way, more detail. A few have said it makes no diff, and a few (like me) say it's worse. I notice a real difference in frequency response, almost as though the tweeter output is boosted with the one strap in, and subjectively, there's less bass. That is consistent with reports by others of greater detail and more air, but as to whether that is "better" is a matter of opinion. Seems like a modification to the speaker's design, which I would not want to with my speakers.
chstob
140 posts
 
I shall try it then. I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't smoke something. If it works though, and I do like it 'better', based on this thread, should I report it?

Thanks for imparting some of your knowledge, it is most appreciated.
Chris
kitch29
316 posts
 
BTW, I cannot tell a lie, the correct attribution is not de Chardin, the dreaded humanist, but actually Charles III of Spain. I don't remember the context, but it was likely what he said in response to his query about the weather in the English Channel that summer of 1548.
liguy OP
228 posts
 
Dekay, I apologize because I think I may have caused some confusion. My origional post was not clear as it could have been. When I auditioned the speakers at the dealer he asked me if I would be biwiring. I said no (Very foolish on my part) so he disconnected the biwire cables, installed the jumpers and used single cables for the audition. Once I got the speakers home I figured what the heck and removed the jumpers and conned the biwire cable (Best move I ever made). If there was any confusion I apologize and hope that cleared it up. Thank you all for posting as I am thrilled to read all of your responses.
garfish
1,840 posts
 
Dekay; don't read too much into my agreement with Redkiwi. It's as Paulwp said, I agree with the "spirit" of Redkiwi's post. Otherwise, IMO, in the near term, we've had enough of going around and around around about AB testing, ABX testing, science vs subjectivism, XYZ testing, objective vs subjective etc etc etc.

You must be feeling a little "frisky" and looking for some action though, heh heh heh. Yes, there are a few things Liguy could do to narrow down what is causing his recent bout of happiness, but I'm content to just let him do it, and happy that he's found a system configuration that he is really grooving on. BTW, I use bi-wiring but I've done it for so long that I forget why. Maybe just because Vandersteen recommends it very highly. Cheers. Craig.
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