Nuforce

my ref 9.2s are going in next week for se, if anyone has upgraded how long before you got them back, one other thing does any of you use the p-8 preamp with you amps, i find the combo a very fine marrage.

Yes, 9's with p8 sound excellent and work great with the Paul Speltz anti ic's. Very good combo.

Jp1208, I am very interested in the Speltz. I haven't gotten back with you, but I upgraded my 8.02b's to 8.05's, which allows me to upgrade further. Thank you Casey for the clarification(because I know it's you). I'm now on maybe 15 hours on the 8.5's. So far(and they recommend 75 hours of music), the 8.5's have the midrange, but I also miss(although, it's maybe contrived) the added treble detail of the 8.02's. I'm using Signal Cable Silver Resolutions, which have Eichmann Silver RCA's. Boy, do I love a discussion! I've done some other things, but I think that Jp1208 is the final arbitrator on this. It seems like, so far, that the 8.5's don't have that treble detail that the 8.02's had. This is on analog, and that's not a negative on the 8.5's, as their midrange is so something, but Jp1208 has both the Speltz and the Silver Resolutions. He just needs to compare them both on analog. Let's open this up? I want to thank Jp1208 for even telling me that I could upgrade(I had given up.).

It will take more than 75 hours if all the parts are new. More like 250. The highs should be there then and they probably sound a little compressed right now. 10 days 24/7 then let us know what you think. As far as comparing the Speltz anti ic's and the Signal Silver's on analog, it will never happen here at least in the near future. I can see where the Signal Silver's could sound better on analog though. Midrange on the Nuforce 9.02's were lean with most other cables on my cdp. The Speltz anti ic's really filled in the mids without compromising the highs and rolling them off. The micro detail and black background is more in line with reference ic's. The DIYer's are giving the big boys a run for there money on cables these days. Talk about a budget reference system, Nuforce and Speltz is where I would start at least on the digital side anyways. The money you save here will afford you a better cdp and I would also recommend not keeping that cdp stock for very long.

Mmakshak and Jp1208, as you know I too am very impressed with the Speltz cables and consider them potentially a best buy of this century in the audio industry.

Since the Speltz made my old pair of $3500 ics sound veiled in the highs and bloated in the bass, I suppose I could say a pair of Speltz Anti-ICs are worth at least 35 times their sale price.

However, there are a few even better performing scs and ics that are still quite reasonably priced.

For example the Audio Tekne ics and scs provided me a significant improvement over the Speltz' cables including a nice doze of musicality. Considering the outrageous prices of some cabling, the Audio Teknes which are one of the very best I've heard to date, should also be considered a tremendous bargain. Especially when the Tekne's performance appears to be without compromise.

Moreover, the Teknes are a beatiful match with the fabulous Nuforce SEs.

If you should ever try them, keep in mind they will sound like a pair of poorly engineered silver ics for the first 100 or so hours.

-IMO