Revel Gem 2 only goes down to 75Hz ?


I am considering Gem 2 for front L/R. However i was stunned to see that their low freq resp rating is only 70 to 75Hz. My primary use is music (both 2.1 & 5.1)

I have a good sub woofer, but i it seems like a bad idea to cross-over at 80Hz when the speaker is only rated down to 75Hz. The usual rule of thumb is to cross-over at approx 2x the low freq rating (eg. 80Hz if speaker is rated down to 40Hz).

Anybody using Gem2 with a sub ?
roxito
Of course, that depends on what is meant by "rated down to." Some speakers are intended to crossover to a sub by design and are capable down to that point and others simply lack LF and the "rated down to" point is optimistic.

I have not looked at the Gem2 specs but I suspect they will reveal that they are in the former category.
It's not that simple... for example what is slope of the subwoofer and what's slope of the Gem2 crossover? The steeper the slope the quicker it rolls off... And what is the -dB at 75Hz? -3dB, -6dB, -12dB? Makes a huge difference...

I bet you'll be fine integrating the Gem2's with a good quality subwoofer
Sure. Integration will depend on the tools you have but I have no doubt it can be achieved.
Have you heard the speakers yet? I wouldn't worry so much about the specs. I may be mistaken but I really believe that some manufacturers are liberal with their specifications and after listening to some speakers I kind of have to wonder how they came up with the specs.

I think I found some specs on the speakers that you're looking at and, although they are only spec'd from 70hz up, the measurements on those speakers showed a low frequency extension down to something like 50hz at -3 db and drops like a brick from there.

My point is that you really have to listen to them. I'm running a pair of tiny Minuets. They have a claimed frequency range that starts at 55hz. I'm thinking that that's a bit optimistic considering that they have 3.5" woofers, but measurements that I've seen in reviews show that this isn't too far off from what they actually do.

In use, I usually cross my sub over at 60 - 65hz and it fills the low end out nicely.
The Revel Gem 2 is a sealed box, which means that its rolloff south of 75 Hz is going to be approximately 12 dB per octave. If you weren't using subs, you could partially offset that gentle rolloff with aggressive use of boundary reinforcement.

As for integration with subs, no problem. Either let the Gems run fullrange and roll off the top of the subs at 12 dB per octave, or roll off the bottom of the Gems at 12 dB per octave and the top of the subs as 24 dB per octave. I believe the latter approach is consistent with THX protocol. Both approaches use the inherent rolloff of the mains as part of the crossover filter. And even if neither of these options are open to you, you'll still be able to get a decent blend with a bit of tweaking.

Personally, I wouldn't design an octave of unneeded bass extension into a pair of speakers that were going to be used as satellites anyway, as you'd be paying an unnecessary penalty in efficiency and/or box size. I think Revel picked the right approach with the Gem 2.

Duke
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