Beating the RVG Horse


I wanted to throw yet another question out there related to the Rudy Van Gelder re-masters.

If you read any of the previous threads on this topic you might recall that I'm not a huge fan of the sound quality, generally finding the recordings to sound thin and tinny.

Ordinarily I try to stay away from the tone controls on my pre-amp, or as Rotel calls it “tone contouring” (I guess it’s sort of an internal EQ with four pre-set levels plus neutral). I try to stick with the sound as originally recorded on the grounds of trying to get a sound as true to originally played as possible. I do confess that this position is born out of some sort of ‘don’t mess with mother nature’ philosophy rather than any consideration to whether or not it sounds any better. Neurotic or not, I generally equate these things to touching up the Mona Lisa because you don’t like the color of the dress.

On the other hand, I have recently started playing around with the tone control on my pre-amp and found that –particularly with some of these thin RVG recordings, they do help to fill out the sound, even if it is by artificially boosting the bass.

Anyone have any thoughts on this kind of fiddling?
grimace
I started a topic about the RVG remasters last year sometime. My POV: they are excessively bright (I also agree with "mechanical" and "sterile"). No one agreed with me. I concluded I am losing my mind, but now I must reconsider.
I have only a scant few of the original vinyl, but quite a few Classic Records re-issues. I also have a small selection of XRCDs. Anyone that has heard any of these three knows that the quality of the original master, while not always fantastic, still is capable of better sound than usually evidenced on the RVG re-masters.

I think the person/s doing the RVG re-masters has a "frequency rolloff" in the higher frequencies of his/her hearing.

I try to stick with vinyl and XRCD (and the less expensive K2 process) for most of my purchases these days.
I think the person/s doing the RVG re-masters has a "frequency rolloff" in the higher frequencies of his/her hearing.
My theory also. And that would be RVG his ownself, would it not?
Hedgehog,
They are re-mastered by Rudy van Gelder and for those who live in California, CD trader in Reseda has been dumping the RVG re-masters along with the 20bit k2's at 7.99 or 8.99 a piece. They have a wide selection.
Not sure if anyone is still reading this thread but....

This thread had touched on the original vinyl vs. the CD reissues. As I now have a TT and one Blue Note record I can offer some additional observations - I mean as far as I can get with one record anyway. The record in question is Kenny Dorham's Whistle Stop on a 1984 French reissue (I couldn't bring myself to spend the bread on an original). This seems to be a pretty high quality pressing.

In general, the sound of the horns is fuller, richer and more present, but the record still has some of the RVG hallmarks, such as the piano that sounds like a cheap upright stuffed in a corner and drums that sound like they were recorded as an afterthought. Great music though.