All in One amp up to $7k


Hi, needed some advice.
Looking for an all in one amplifier- including streaming. Had earlier settled on and bought a Hegel 590 - but could not ship it to Dubai from the US, sold it to a friend of mine. 

Any recommendations? In the $5k-$7k range? At least 150w into 8 Ohms.

I had looked at Gold Note- but not completely sure. PS Audio Stellar Strata MK2 fits the bill though not sure how good it is. 

Also though I didn’t listen to the Hegel H590 I have this feeling that it would have been awesome.

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I you liked the Naim Atom, you might want to consider the Naim Uniti Nova. I haven't heard either, but with the Nova, you would have the convince of the Atom with more power.

I own the Hifi Rose RS520 and it is great as an all in one amp. It doesn't compete with some of the better amps that I've owned in the past, but as a streamer with the watts you are looking for (and a wonderful touch display), it is a pretty nice unit and well below budget.

The Lyngdorf 3400 might be another consideration in the $7k range.

 

I auditioned the Gold Note is-1000 deluxe, SimAudio Neo Ace, and MA5300.  Ended up going with the Gold Note.  In my system, it did everything right.  But a heads up, there is no headphone input with that unit. 

@arizonabob thanks. It seems it is a streamer/pre-amp akin to an Eversolo for example. Am looking at an integrated with streaming.

Currently homing in on a Hegel H390

McIntosh MB50 streamer, new 2K used ? An generous number of integrated choices. Previously owned will keep you under 7K. Not everybody is enamored with the McIntosh sound signature. Check them out before you buy.  AB

@mbmi I could get one at a very good price. Maybe $6k. But it doesn't have a streamer. so not decided.

over the last 2 days got home a Musical Fidelity m2Si for a home demo. It sings and for the price (new $1k) it sings beautifully. It held more than a candle to the $4.5k Gato Amp 150. I could not tell the difference between 72W and 150W. But then I am not sure if that is a reason to buy it.

@greenngoldcheesehead Have heard a lot about Atoll. In Dubai, difficult to find. Maybe on my next trip to Europe- sometime next year.

I did try the Devialet Expert 220 earlier this week. Small package - breadth and width as much as  Project turntable. Height almost nothing. Great sound. Decent remote. Pathetic app. No Tidal support. Overall the sound was good, very good but could not better the Gato/Eversolo A6 combo. So returned it.

I'd consider the Atoll SDA-300 (or 200).  $5500 all in one.  150W, 2 toroidal transformers, dedicated power supplies for analogue stages as well as the dac.  Discrete class A preamp circuitry.  Burr brown dac

I, personally, like the advice of a separate streamer and integrated due to the ever changing streaming technology.

@g2the2nd will look at Nad over the weekend.

@melbergall I have eyed an Anthem STR for sometime - the heft scares me a bit. Will try and listen to one. Finding a used one in Dubai could be a challenge- let’s see.

I have had great luck with my Anthem STR all in one, for 3 years now. 200 wpc into 8, doubles into 4. Preamp includes room correction software which I needed for my new room setup and it works flawlessly. Has a built in dac that works well with all the requisite inputs. I did ultimately decide to upgrade to a separate dac (echoing the point made by others) but I do use it as the dac for my cd transport. It has a great interface, is built like a tank and drives a $7K pair of speakers quite well thank you very much. There probably are marginally better sounding all in ones out there but I doubt at anywhere near this price. It had a retail when I bought it of $4500 but I believe that’s risen to around $5500. Still worth it and then some. Good luck to you! 

It’s a thought @mapman  though I do seem to have a mental block when it comes to Cambridge Audio. 

Cambridge Evo 150 is top notch and less than half your budget. I’ve been running mine for a couple of years now.  It replaced gear that retailed for  just above your target. 

Good luck , the New 600 Hegel I believe can stream has a decent dac and you can plug in a  external Nas or HD  tell Anthony Perrotta Consultants Paul L 

sent you .

 

@audioman58 i already have a separate set up- streamer, DAC and amp.

i hear you in the Hegel. I will look at that and reach out to the person you mentioned.

@megabyte usually I would be able to ship and amp to the UAE from the US. I have done that a few times. This particular purchase was on USAM from an individual. This means no proper invoice like a shop issued. US custom rules require for any shipped package to have a proper invoice to ensure that a prohibited item is not being being shipped out and to also evaluate the cost.

@echolane will look into that.

I have been an owner of two Audiomat tube integrated amplifiers for over twenty years. I first bought the Audiomat Arpege and LOVED it. A few years later I had an opportunity to buy an Audiomat Prelude Reference MKII that had been a demo. I’m still using the Audiomat Arpege in the TV system. I think it’s had one repair in 20 years and that was the volume knob. I recently moved on from the Prelude for no really good reason. It had only one repair in the same lengthy period and it was for the same issue, the volume knob, an inexpensive repair. I had just heard Luxman tube separates each selling for well over double the price of the Audiomat Prelude. If you look for reviews on Audiomat products you will find them uniformly outstanding. Here is one on the Aria, pure Class A.

https://hifiplus.com/articles/audiomat-aria-integrated-amplifier/

Why can’t you ship Hegel to your country?

A 590 would be amazing.  
 

But if you can’t, then I’d look into Michi or Accuphase. 

If you absolutely have to have a one box solution then the New Hegel 400

Anthony at Perrotta consultants will get you in pretty close to your budget.

Idont recommend that , too much in one cabinet digital cannot be as good crammed on  a little card , a integrated amplifier yes , then buy a streamer .

these are facts , digital is very critical to noise. ,it can sound decent but not optimum.

 

Coda has   A nice 50 watt pure class A amp lots of power 

and 3 choice of power  in the model 8 I think in a Class AB amp 

Mike at AudioArchon is very fair. On pricing and service great products  all Nelson Pass ex Engineering team from way back  made in U.S.A 10 year warranty .

any views on the Devialet Expert 220 Pro with Core Infinity? I have an opportunity to get it for around #3.4k- used.

@dxbwineguy I understand it perfectly. You want that effortless sound. I am no expert but there are many threads and posts about not all watts being equal.

 

@grislybutter possibly. My aspiration for high power (do I sound like a politician?) is only because I have never had a very high power amp - so am not sure what I am missing. There must be a reason that folks like Hegel make an H590 vs their owther amps. That is the only reason. 

from everything you write, your requirement list doesn't seem to match what you really need.

You could get a lot more value for your money if you were ok with less power

I can vouch for the H590. Sounds great. The built-in DAC is “ok”. Doesn’t compare well to separate high end DACs such as my T+A DAC 200, which is out for repair for lightning damage. Boy, do I miss it!! Didn’t know the 590 would stream. I use Innuos for that. Happy hunting!

Coda CSiB is amazing in that price range. Can’t go wrong. But no streamer. 

@freediver its a valid point that you make. I think the only reason is because not sure what I am missing. Will check out your recommendation. Thank you.

@dxbwineguy Too bad about the Hegel H590, as I believe you would've been absolutely blown away by it!!!  I use the Hegel H590 as an amp/preamp only.  I use a separate outboard DAC.  I strongly believe that the Hegel H590/H600 are one of the greatest values in high end audio.  Happy listening. 

@dxbwineguy ,if the small Vincent rocks your speakers,why do you need a minimum of 150wpc.as you stated in your OP?
 Look at the SimAudio Neo Ace, a superb all in 1 solution that offers everything you are looking for except the massive power...

@dokosan have always admired Simaudio. Listened to their inception story on a podcast last and this year and have always wanted to listen. will keep a look out for the 2 things that you mention though it will be one piece more than I need.

@drrsutliff interesting recommendation. they have been causing a rage recently on the net. Will surely look this up.

@chenry thank you for the suggestion I never knew till your post that JBL made amps. Love all the tech in it, but I am not particularly fond of vintage looks. Will look at Arcam.

@russ69 and @fastfreight hear you on separates. that is what I have now. I have 2 amps- a Vincent SV200, small footprint, belies the ratings, hybrid. It just rocks my 2 speakers. The other is a Gato AMP 150 AE. Again an excellent amp and it should be for the price it commands. I have DMP A6 working as a streamer only and have 2 DACS- a MHDT Lab Orchid (tube based) and a Topping D70 Pro Octo. That's a lot of gear and while I love each piece just want to reduce the amount of stuff lying around. I recently sold a Naim Uniti Atom- and now I think maybe I should not have.

Preowned Simaudio 390 Pre/Dac/Streamer and 330A Power Amp (125 watts into 4, 250 into 8) - new would be $10-11k but would come with 10 year warranty.

Advance Paris “My Connect 250”. All in one with tube preamp, 190 watts solid state power amp, streaming, CD, and phono.  Worth checking out!

My Soulnote A2 gives audiophile pleasing smooth sound.  I agree with @russ69 about separate digital (streamer / DAC).  The Integrated will be timeless, the digital not so much.

JBL SA-750 will leave you with some money in your pocket while giving you streamer, DAC and integrated. 120W Class "G". I believe Arcam has a similarly featured model.

Just get a regular integrated and and separate streamer. The amp will always be good but streamers are going to constantly change as new services become available.