I purchased Delos last week from needledoctor. I am using clearaudio Maestro with great satisfactions, but since I just upgrade my phono stage to Aesthetix Rhea, I think I should try MC cartridge as well.
My question is what the input loading that I should set for my Rhea when I use Delos? From Delos's specification the loading range is rather big (from 91 ohms to 47K ohms). I understand Jcarr's explanation of loading with respect to the phono stage and cable, but I have difficult to find out the cable loading and phono stage loading.
My TT is Thorens 124MKii, the headshell I am going to use is Yamamoto HS-1AS on SME3009. The tonearm cable is the original RCA to my phono stage. If anyone has suggestions to derive input loading of my phono stage, I will be appreciated. |
Thanks Jcarr.... I hope to get my cart soon. |
Nolitan:
Yes, I've used the Delos with Phantom IIs (on a variety of turntables). No problems, and the sound quality has been good.
Loading is as I have stated previously - it depends on how much capacitance there is between the Delos and your phono stage, and also on how resistant your phono stage is to high-frequency overload (from about 100kHz - 7MHz). But this is nothing unique to the Delos.
One comment based on experience with the Phantom - changing the phono cable to a low-capacitance type (40pF for 1.2 meter length including connectors) improved the sound quality quite noticeably by itself, and this also enabled the loading at the phono stage to be reduced, which further improved sound quality.
hth, jonathan carr |
Paperw8, regarding my detailed investigations into load impedance values, the starting point was my basic knowledge of electrical design (that when inductive generators are involved, any capacitance present will influence the results), the second stage was SPICE analysis, and the third stage involved using signal generators and verifying how different load networks affected the electrical response curves, including above 100kHz.
I generated one set of data for the Delos, and another for the Kleos, and the instruction manual for each cartridge includes this information. The two sets of numbers are similar, but not the same. Although the topology of the electrical model is the same for both cartridges, the electrical values of the signal coils are different, and therefore the two should be treated as individual cases.
The overall take-home message is that the optimal loading changes, depending on how much capacitance there is between cartridge and phono stage. The less capacitance there is, and/or the better your phono stage is at handling ultrasonic energy (above 100kHz), the lighter the electrical load can be. I believe that this is true not only for all of the Lyra cartridges, but most other low-impedance low-output MC cartridges as well.
Cartridges with comparatively higher output levels likely have more inductance, and this means that the frequency range of all electrical effects will come down. The nature of the interaction and reactance between coil inductance and cable/phono stage capacitance is the same as with low-output low-impedance MCs, but where the frequencies involved are in the high-ultrasonic range with low-impedance MCs, the frequencies involved will get closer and closer to the audible range as the coil inductance increases. In either case, the phase response will start shifting at a much lower frequency than the frequency response (1-to-10 ratio as a general rule of thumb), so if you feel that phase response is worth worrying about, any reactive anomalies in the frequency response should be kept above at least 200kHz. This is a strong argument for the basic superiority of low-inductance low-output cartridges - assuming that the phono stage is up to the job.
BTW, I'd like to mention that the Delos has been receiving favorable reviews in the audiophile press. Micheal Fremer gave the Delos a positive review in the 2010 August issue of Stereophile, and there is supposedly a positive writeup of the Delos in The Abso!ute Sound (although I've not read the article).
The 2010-08 (August) issue of the German audio magazine Stereoplay has a 5-way cartridge shootout between Ortofon's Cadenza Red, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Benz-Micro Wood SL, Kuzma KC2 (a ZYX OEM), and Lyra Delos. The Delos was picked as the best-sounding cartridge in this particular comparison, and was the only cartridge to earn the "Stereoplay Highlight" plaudit. The Stereoplay review is particularly interesting in that it offers a much more comprehensive set of measurements and tests (of all cartridges involved) than any article that I have seen in the English-speaking audio press. Well worth reading if you have an interest in any of the cartridges mentioned.
cheers, jonathan |
To date I've mounted Delos on Triplanar, Dynavector 507 Mk.II, SME M2-12R, and Hadcock 242.
Depending on phono stage, Pass XP-15, Steelhead, Esoteric E-03, it seems to perform best between 250 and 400 ohms.
YMMV
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Thanks you Jonathan. That was enlightening. |
What arms have you guys installed this cart in ?
Will something is the 14g effective mass work like the Phantom ?
In terms of cart loading, how many ohms are you guys loading it with ?
thanks!! |
Paperw8, before we speak of output levels, we need to distinguish what kind of core the coils are wound onto. Assuming the same level of magnetic field strength (flux), non-permeable cores are more inefficient at converting the physical movement of the stylus into electrical output, but what output they produce is quite linear. Permeable cores still aren't what I'd call efficient, nonetheless they result in much higher output for a given amount of stylus movement, but the permeable core adds noise, distortion and reduces resolution.
OTOH, distortion in a cartridge is caused by physical issues (such as tracking resolution) as well as magnetic, and the better the physical aspects (styli with longer and narrower contact patch, more linear dampers, less body resonances, more complete energy evacuation from the cartridge structure), the more noticeable magnetic and core issues will be. The reverse is also true, if the stylus is conical (spherical) and the damper is a simple one-way design, distortion due to magnetic and core issues will be swamped and therefore much less noticeable.
The next thing that needs to be stated is that distortion or noise in analog playback is caused not only by the cartridge, but also the phono stage and signal cabling. Tonearms likewise cause tracking and energy evacuation distortions, but we will leave them outside of the current discussion (as things would get too complex). In particular, the contribution of the phono stage is not small. Areas that phono stages struggle with include noise and gain (if noise and gain are insufficient, the designer may need to add one complete gain stage or an input transformer), and immunity to high-frequency energy (which are triggered frequently, by ticks and pops, mistracking, electrical loading, and RF issues), which can cause inharmonic distortion, which is particularly nasty-sounding. If the phono stage has a lower level of performance, it is usually better to design the phono cartridge for higher output levels, even if it means so much coil inductance that the electrical phase is seriously messed up (the worst in this respect being MMs).
If the phono stage is state-of-the-art, the cartridge designer can afford to design a lower-impedance, low-inductance, low-output cartridge. The extreme case here would be a ribbon MC (single-turn coil), but to my knowledge, no phono stage has ever been built which could do justice to such a cartridge, which shows you how challenging the task can be.
As far as the cartridge is concerned, lower output is more ideal. Lower output means less metal in the coil windings (copper has a specific gravity of 8-9, which is greater than iron!) for lower moving mass and reduced tracking distortion. Lower output also means fewer coil winding layers, which enables the coils to be of cleaner shape and will improve crosstalk, phase response, and channel matching (cleaner-made coils also look much better).
The majority of cartridges these days have permeable-core coils (well-known exceptions being Benz Micro's ruby core, and the carbon cores used in some of Ortofon's designs). Compared to permeable-core cartridges with their core-induced distortions, air-core cartridges will need more coil windings to achieve similar output levels, and the extra copper may result in more moving mass than if a permeable core had been used, and the increased number of coil layers will impair the geometric shape of the coils. Comparisons between the two approaches tend not to be straightforward.
Feedback from Lyra's markets (we make only permeable-core cartridges) has been that to go below 0.5mV (5cm/sec) means that many phono stages will be less than happy. The user may hear problems like noise, grain, insufficient bass response, or in less problematic situations, they may simply not hear the improvement in resolution that the lower-output cartridge should be giving them.
As a cartridge manufacturer, our problem is that the user may not be happy with the sound, but in most cases they will blame it on the cartridge rather than the phono stage or that they have excessive electrical contact points in the signal cabling system (which seems to work OK with MMs, MIs and high-output MCs), but will impair the sound of low-output MCs. Since no manufacturer likes to hear that users are unhappy, we've shifted our cartridges away from where they were some years ago (0.22-25mV, single-layer coils) to our present level (0.5mV, double-layer coils, although the Dorian and Delos use three-layer coils to generate 0.6mV). We are willing to make single-layer coil versions of our cartridges upon customer requests (especially the lower-volume, more expensive models), and if the customer's phono stage is up to the task, our experience has been that everyone is happy.
Does this answer your question adequately? It's a complex topic, so please feel free to ask more questions if some things remain unclear.
cheers, jonathan |
Jonathan,
Thanks for your thoughts and input. I received my Delos the other day and installed it on my RB300 last night.
All I can say so far is, wow, great job!
Very dynamic and balanced, much more than previous cartridges such as the Argo (which I did like, but found could be a little strident at times).
I am really looking forward to the next 50 hours or so.
Byron |
What is the significance of the output voltage level of a give cartridge with regard to audio fidelity? For example, the Lyra Delos cartridge puts out 0.6mV. Some MC cartridges that I have seen put out less than half that voltage level. The apparent benefit would seem to be that the higher output level needs less gain in the phono stage, which likely means higher S/N ratios as opposed to lower output MC cartridges where you would need more gain in the phono stage. I guess my question is, are there disadvantages of the higher output voltage level relative to cartridges that output lower voltage levels?
I appreciate that the ultimate determination of whether one cartridge sounds better than another can only be determined by listening (which has it's own limitations because it can often be difficult to due an apples-to-apples comparison under the same conditions), but I am trying to get a sense as to what is the consideration in determining what output voltage a given cartridge will be designed to produce.
On a related topic, I read the instructions that come with the Lyra Delos that specify suggested load impedance values for use at the phono stage. My question is how did you determine those impedance ranges? By SPICE analysis, or some other method? |
Hi Byron:
Sorry for making you wait for a reply. To give you the short answer first, the Delos should work with the PhonoCube just fine. The PhonoCube uses what is called "current-mode" topology, which is a very similar configuration to the I/V stage in many DACs. I believe that the Dynavector P-75 is also of this type. This kind of circuit has three characteristics worth keeping in mind.
1. The circuit varies in gain depending on the impedance of the cartridge coils. There is a main feedback resistor inside the circuit, and the gain is the ratio of this resistor to the cartridge resistance. The lower the cartridge resistance, the greater the gain, so the PhonoCube will have higher amplification with the 8.2-ohm Delos than the 38-ohm 17D3. Note that the Delos also has two times the output level of the 17D3, so altogether the PhonoCube will produce significantly higher listening levels with the Delos than the 17D3.
2. The phono amp's signal input is the summing node of the feedback system, and this feedback reduces the input impedance to effectively 0 ohms (except for ultra-high frequencies, where there may not be enough gain to sustain feedback). As a result, the PhonoCube's circuit presents a heavier-than-normal load for the phono cartridge, and this increased level of electrical damping may result in a somewhat different sound than what you'd get with the same cartridge if it were paired with a normal voltage-mode circuit (with higher input impedance).
3. This type of circuit inverts phase, so it may be worthwhile to try swapping the plus and minus leads that connect the cartridge to the tonearm/headshell.
cheers, jonathan |
Jonathan - Thanks much for your detailed explanation of Lyra's current and future cartridge build plans. Lyra's operaton is in such contrast to a much larger operation, such as Ortofon.
I will be looking at the Dorian soon. |
Hi Smholl:
>What is the plan if something happens to Mishima and he is unable to build anymore cartridges? Does Lyra go belly-up?? I would think that a few more people would be trained to carry on the work of one man.<
That's a key reason why we brought Akiko Ishiyama into the picture. In the past we've tried to nurture a number of different apprentices, but after some time Mishima found cause to reject them. Mishima is very critical and picky about who he feels is worth working with (I'm not too different, so I usually understand his position). The exception has been Akiko.
She began by building MM cartridges (which are much easier to build than MCs) around the year 2000, and spent a few years honing her basic technique. After observing her build quality and consistency with MMs, I felt that it was worthwhile to get her working on MCs, under Mishima's tutelage. She started by working on the most basic stages of assembly for the Dorian*, and her steady improvement encouraged myself and Mishima to teach her more, and have her do increasingly difficult stages of assembly. She's now been involved with cartridge-building for about 10 years, perhaps 7 years of which have been with MCs, and her growth has been reassuring. She's now involved with the new Kleos, the Delos, and the Dorian. Maybe in another 5-10 years, she will become capable enough to entrust her with a complete MC cartridge.
But apprentices or no apprentices, our brand policy is that each and every piece that we make must be listened to and found worthy before it can be shipped (that's true of our amplification products as well as cartridges). That will always define the upper limit of our production capacity.
hth, jonathan carr
* Originally I planned for the Dorian to be assembled completely by an outside cartridge manufacturer (that has produced many MC and MM cartridges, mostly for OEM clients but with some models bearing its own brand). When we received the first batch of 50 completed cartridges, we tested them but found so many problems and performance irregularities that there was no point in continuing to do business with this manufacturer. Also, the chemicals and adhesives that they had used in their assembly process made it impossible for the defective cartridges to be reworked, and this production run became a total loss. I then changed plans to bring Akiko in as an apprentice, and as she learned more to have her gradually assume more of the work. |
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks for all the information regarding the Delos.
Just a question- how well do you think the Delos would work with the 47 Labs PhonoCube? It is a current amplifier and currently I am using it with my Dyna 17D3..It sounds great, but the gain is a little on the low side. The dyna has a 32Ohm internal impedance while the Delos is at 8.2, so I am thinking that it will work quite well...
Any thoughts?
Regards,
byron |
Will do. Thanks again and congrats on the new analog setup. |
Cmalak...Of course, no problem. I'd be happy to provide feedback. I'm also currently using a phono preamp loaner as my Camelot Tech Lancelot is back with the manufacturer to customize it a little more. So the system is not complete yet.
As far as additional tweaks, I did get the Valhalla wiring, which looks spectacular with the black oak finish and certainly contributes to the detail and transparency of the sound. I'm thinking of adding the clamp or the SDS possibly in the future.
Perhaps remind me in a little while should I forget to come back to this thread to provide a report. |
Actusreus...this is the combo I am considering. Great to hear you are liking what you are hearing. Would very much appreciate your feedback with a little bit more detail in terms of what you are hearing from this combo once you have logged in some hours on both the table and the cart. Also, did you get any additional tweaks with the Classic (periphery ring, HRX clamp, Valhalla wiring, wtc...)? Thx |
The Delos finally arrived and has been mounted on the VPI Classic, which was also backordered for over 2 months. Wow, a beautiful looking cartridge made with the highest attention to detail. The built is simply immaculate. The combo sounds great right out of the box; considering the cart and table are not broken in yet, I'm very impressed with both. Well worth the wait. |
What is the plan if something happens to Mishima and he is unable to build anymore cartridges? Buy now or cry later :-) |
Jon,
Thank you very much for your thorough and candid response to my post. I absolutely agree with you; I'd rather wait for the cartridge longer than see Lyra trade quality for numbers. It's very reassuring to know that Lyra continues to make quality and standards its top priorities. |
Jcarr - What is the plan if something happens to Mishima and he is unable to build anymore cartridges? Does Lyra go belly-up?? I would think that a few more people would be trained to carry on the work of one man. |
Hi Actusreus:
Lyra is a small manufacturer, and while we use a lot of modern techniques like NC machining and EDM machining to fabricate our components, all of our cartridges are assembled, adjusted and voiced by hand. That includes the Delos.
From our earliest days as a manufacturer, we decided that all of our cartridges should be built by hand, and that before being shipped, each and every cartridge should be listened to and sonically verified to be up to our standards of quality. Our experience has also been that the very same components can result in rather different sound, depending on who the builder is.
For these reasons, we only employ one cartridge builder. Yoshinori Mishima, and his assistant/apprentice, Akiko Ishiyama. The Dorian, Delos and Kleos models are built partly by Akiko, with Mishima in charge of the final stages of assembly and all adjustments, voicing and measurements. All of our other cartridges are made by Mishima only.
The end result is that our averaged monthly production capacity caps out at about 100 cartridges (different cartridge models require different amounts of time and work). The 100 number includes all cartridges that we do - cartridge rebuilds/repairs and new cartridges for Lyra, also work for our OEM clients. Neither Mishima nor myself intend to exceed 100 cartridges per month, because doing so would force the work to be rushed, and standards of quality would suffer.
Delos's are being made at the rate of about 50 units per month, and while there are no manufacturing problems, demand has consistently and steadily outpaced this number. Our order books suggest that we have now slipped to about 60~75 Delos' behind where our distributors, dealers, and customers would like for us to be; representing about 1.5 months production. I acknowledge that this isn't a happy state of affairs, but given our 100-cartridge production capacity ceiling, in order to deliver more Delos' per month, we would need to drop or severely reduce production of other cartridges, which is an even less palatable alternative.
I apologize for this situation, but as long as all of our cartridges remain hand-built by one man and his assistant, and to the standards of quality that we consider acceptable, there is no quick solution. The only sensible thing for us to do is to keep focused on our work, and deliver as many cartridges as we can without compromising on build or sonic quality.
We hope that our customers will understand and be patient, and we also hope that, when they listen to the Delos (or Kleos), it will make them feel that it was well worth the wait.
kind regards, jonathan carr |
>>06-26-10: Actusreus
The Delos must be in very high demand as I've been waiting for mine for about a month..... Any dealers here who could shed some light on the issue?
Most Lyra cartridges must be ordered in advance i.e. there is no existing stock to "pull from" in most cases.
I ordered my current supply of Delos and Kleos a few months ago.
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I did get my Delos back from Lyra after the adjustment as suggested by Jonathan. It's now riding with good clearance and still sounds good. Thanks. |
The Delos must be in very high demand as I've been waiting for mine for about a month now and still no sight of it. I understand it's unusual for Lyra to have this problem. Is it a supply problem or a manufacturing problem? Any dealers here who could shed some light on the issue? |
Thanks Jonathan!
I meant distance between mounting holes and stylus.
My AirTight PC-1 cartridge (for service in Japan) lies around 9.5 mm. |
Hi!
Yeah, You did make my weekend for shure.
Now I will listen for quiet a while and then make minor adjustments if needed. Most difficult part I find is getting cantilever parallel on zero-points (at the arc).
Once in sweet spot it´s definately rewarding.
Thanks again, have a nice weekend! |
Sounds like we made your weekend Clabe :)
Physical characteristics of a cartridge have no bearing on making a Mint (or any other for that matter) protractor for a particular tonearm. As long as your tonearm/turntable parameters stay the same (i.e., mounting distance and effective length), you can swap carts to your heart's content and align them using the very same Mint. Enjoy! |
Clabe: For the Delos (and Kleos), the nominal distance between mounting screwholes and stylus is now 9.68mm (+/- 0.141mm). This is with rated tracking force (1.75g) applied. (Note that there is a possibility that the nominal 9.68mm distance may be changed slightly in the future, likely on the order of 0.1mm or a maximum of 0.2mm).
I will try to answer any other questions when I get the time to post something meaningful (may take a few more days).
hth, jonathan carr |
Hi Gyus!
What would I do without your valuable tips.
I had the impression that it´s combination of arm/cartridge-data that´s needed for making Mint Protractor.
Many Thanks! |
Clabe,
To the best of my knowledge, the Mint Tractor is made for a specific tonearm, not cartridge. If all you have changed is the cartridge, any variations between the Delos and Air Tight are irrelevant. That's the whole point of having the Mint--it lets you align any cartridge mounted on the tonearm the Mint was made for. |
Clabe,
It doesn't matter. You are fine. Your Breuer 8C tonearm has slots in the headshell to allow you to get the correct effective length for the Delos.
You don't need another Mint LP Protractor.
Just leave the arm alone (don't change pivot-to-spindle distance) and install the new cartridge. You can adjust the cartridge in the headshell to get the correct overhang.
Again, the most straight forward approach, if you don't move the pivot-to-spindle distance, you are fine and the adjustment should be a snap to get the new cartridge to track the arc.
Dre |
Actusreus!
I know, and I understand why your wonder.
Because I have a Mint Protractor made for AirTight PC-1 with distance 9.5 mm from needle - cartridge front. That would save me an order for a new.
I still have the same arm.
Many Thanks! |
Clabe,
Why do you need to know this? Seems like a rather odd piece of information to be asking about. |
Hi again!
Anyone know distance between stylus tip and cartridge front
on Delos. Maybe it varies from cartridge to cartridge, but is it significant.
Many Thanks! |
Hi Jonathan Carr!
Didn´t you have a thread comparing Delos with Lyra Skala, in som respect better in others worse. Can´t find it.
Many Thanks! |
Dodgealum...I believe that as long as you stayin that 8-12Hz RF range, you are fine. I will let others who are more experienced in vinyl than me interject here and expand on this but I think you are still ok. I am attaching a link to the RF calculator I used so you can plug in different combinations of carts and tonearms to see how things match. Click on "Freek's Resonant Frequency Calculator" here to download the Excel spreadsheet: http://www.theanalogdept.com/cartridge___arm_matching.htm. Hope this helps. |
Cmalak:
Thank you for doing the calculation. Can you clarify what it means to be at the upper end of the desired range? How far toward the extreme ends of the range (or outside the range) would you have to go before you experienced sonic degradation? Also, I'd be curious how my Dyna XX2MKII scores when the formula is applied. I'm told this cartridge matches up very well with the JMW-9 but I've never seen what the resonant frequency score for this combination. |
It's many years since I owned a 501, but from I can remember the 501 was neither warmer or colder than the Delos.
Just different.
For me the reason that the 501 was a little bit ( not much ) warm was that it softened the atttack of the transients ( in some way like a Benz ).
The Delos is a little bit warm WITHOUT softening the attack and IMHO a WAY better cartridge than the Shelter 501. |
Let me just briefly add, that - if one is really serious about VTA/SRA (whatever one likes best...), it is all about that the contact area of the stylus is "in line" with the cutting angle of the record on your TT right now.
Thats why a VTA is "groove-compliant".
There is a good an logic reason, why VTA on-the-fly has some advantages if one really wants to fine-tune his front end set-up.
And this indeed has to be done by foot (i.e.: ear.....).
Much better focus and soundstage on one system compared to the other often is only a matter of 1-3° - and may change with the next record which was cut by a different cutting head in a different angle. |
In a way it is a discussion for every cartridge, for every Set Up, for different records and so on. SRA Let us have a look into the Delos manual: "... set height of tonearm pivot so that the Armtube is parallel to LP surface... thicker LP's will require tonearm pivot to be raised, and thinner to be lowered..." Well, with some tonearms it can be done, the one from continuum with its special "bow" will require some work :-) But anyway, what is REALLY mean is another Headline in the manual "Use Your Ears" :-) |
Dear Actusreus, Thanks to you and Syntax for setting me straight on the concept that SRA cannot be set by observation of the angle of the stylus with the LP. I read Fremer's article only superficially, obviously. I will now cease to be concerned about something I cannot see and have no hope of seeing. Viruses are bad enough. |
I was wondering if anyone has had an opportunity to compare the Delos to the Benz Glider S. Thanks |
Syntax, Great photo. But your SRA looks a bit off, based on Fremer's latest column in S'phile. 92 degrees, he says. Not necessarily. Fremer defines the SRA as "the angle between the record surface and the vertical axis of the stylus's CONTACT AREA area..." He then goes on to say that "to properly set SRA you need to know the stylus profile contact patch of your catridge." If a cartridge has an "extreme-angle contact patch" (like the Ortofon A90), it would require that the shank of the stylus "be actually pitched far forward for the contact area's SRA to be at 92 [degrees]." He also warns against using the shank of the stylus as a reference for setting the SRA. I believe the Delos has a line-contact stylus, just like my Soundsmith Aida, and the shank of the stylus might have to be "pitched" forward to get 92 degreees, like Fremer says. The angle of the shank of my cart's stylus looks very much like Syntax's Delos'. I won't deny that I find it rather confusing and have no idea how to verify it is in fact 92 degrees at this point. It seems you have to use a microscope and software like Fremer did. Perhaps Mr. Carr can express his opinion on the subject. |
Hi Jonathan,
Thanks for chipping in. I have contacted my dealer who will look into for me as it rides low from the word go with only a few hours on it at most.
The arms i have used are Phantom ii and a new Reed 2 both with damped lift mechanism so no DJ arms here.
It sounds really good but i do have issue with fluff ball accumulating on the paper towards the end of side at times impairing the performance. I think it's just a low rider needing adjustment.
Thanks,
jasper
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Jaspert: if you think there is a problem, put the cartridge back into the box, put in a label that says "low rider", and give it back to your dealer so that they can send it back to us.
We will be happy to take a look at it and address anything which may be amiss. My guess is that it's only an adjustment issue rather than involving any component failure (which I believe is true for most low-riding cartridges which are two years old or less and haven't been tracked over the manufacturer's VTF recommendations).
As an aside, one more thing that you may want to watch out for is whether your tonearm uses a damped elevator mechanism or not. If it doesn't, and "drops" the cartridge into the LP surface, the repeated impacts over time will stress and degrade the suspension. The suspensions of most non-DJ MC cartridges aren't designed to stand up to this kind of treatment.
hth, jonathan carr |
Did he write about the dance ability? No? Here you see the right position for it. |
Syntax, Great photo. But your SRA looks a bit off, based on Fremer's latest column in S'phile. 92 degrees, he says. |
I'm enjoying my new Delos at the moment but mine rides quite low, much lower than Syntax's , very nice pic by the way. The washi paper is touching the record as it plays right from the word go. |
Hm, good question. I think, it is more on the yellow side of the sound spectrum, with a nice touch into the red. |
