Steely Dan. I don't know what possessed me to buy AJA on SACD from MD, but a total waste of $30. Homogenous. I don't like them any more now than I did about 50 years ago.
Are there any recording artists you just can’t listen too?
For me there is one that has always been top of the list.
Edith Piaf…..l just can’t think of anything worse.
Do not get me wrong and consider my choice is in any way racist….l love to listen to music with songs in any language… Italian, French, Spanish…..
Russian and German can however be extremely demanding, but Edith Piaf (if possible in any language) is a potential harrowing experience.
Do any others on here have a similar artist, or artists that can trigger the same physical reaction?
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@lordmelton buddy, it's an ironic lyric. It parodies what people said back then about the vietnamese. That's not the speaker talking that's a speaker reflecting what Society says. You really thinks Springsteen would say yellowman? Really? |
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Yeah, draft dodging Brucie should have done a bit more research because Uncle Sam wasn't sending him to kill the yellow man because the Viet Cong were light brown to dark brown skinned (if they were working in the sun in the rice paddies).Lots of city folk are white skinned. I've always seen this lyric as incredibly uninformed and racist and surprised no one has ever called him out on it. |
If we try to understand why we hate some music and why we love such other music, If we write down the reasons, If we meditate seriously about them, We will discovered our own history and programation (by ourselves and by others)... Tastes must be educated and had no validity of their own in the absolute... I was not born with my tastes i acquired them... for some reason which escapes us if we dont meditate ...
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@daniel25 You have absolutely no idea how ignorant you are. As they say "ignorance is bliss and to be retarded is sublime". |
Thanks for your wisdom @daniel25 . Without you we wouldn't realize how pathetic we are. |
Nothing says old and out of touch like listing all the music you hate. I don’t mean this lightly. No coincidence you see the high end audio industry dying off with its community members and why the youth or women seldom take on the interest. Look what would be awaiting, tired old has beens gate keeping their status quo, not quite the rebel that led you to fall in love with your music in the first place. Knocking music, an artist or entire genres is to miss the entire point of music. For all the stuff you like there is an entire generation before you that said your music was crap. That is not to say there is stuff I don’t like but I can appreciate artistic effort behind it. Many modern music is far more advanced then the older music. If you think it’s all electronics then your clueless. Most music you hold so dear wasn’t even written by the artist who made the music, bands were slapped together by record labels and people ignorantly think this was the golden age of music. This is nothing more than an admission the art, technology, creativity has passed you by and you no longer recognize it when you hear it. |
@gdaddy1 , you are ridiculous and you do not know what a draft dodger is. But if you are hung up on the definition of a word that actually has no formally recognized definition (unlike draft resistance or draft evasion or draft avoidance) then I guess that makes you a draft dodger because you avoided the draft by joining the navy. Like many other kids did during that time period. Like the way GW Bush avoided the draft by getting jumped in front of a long line to join the TANG. But I am not going call you or them draft dodgers. Although Bruce is mistaken about the use of a word that is not a legal term and has no legal definition, Bruce is brutally honest about what he did in 1968, unlike Cadet Bonespurs who "had a very strong letter." Before that, Fat Donnie lied and claimed he had a lottery number ’the likes of which no one had ever seen before.’ And seeing as how talking your way out of the draft wasn’t incredibly easy during the Vietnam War, no one except those who were in the room during that physical truly know what went down, regardless of what Bruce’s misguided guilt compels him to say. And if he would have passed the physical and not been 4-Fed? He says he wasn’t going to go, but since that didn’t happen no one will ever know since quite often people say one thing, but when push actually comes to shove they take a different course of action.
And thanks for including part of the quote that I provided in my previous post and coming off as if you are the great discoverer of the truth. Give me a break. So continue on with your snowflake rage against Bruce and keep pumping yourself up with your nationalistic pride. |
@mylogic , this is off the track of your OP, but kind of pertains to me trying to describe why I do not like the music I do not like. Anyway, back in the '90s and through some of the '00s my dad would come a couple of thousand miles to visit us for Thanksgiving. Before he retired in '87 he was an art teacher and it was not just a job for a paycheck for him--he truly appreciated art. A true appreciation. (Go figure how the son of immigrants and who served in the Navy near the end of WW2 and worked for the railroad in Montana in the '40s while attending college would be an artsy guy, because I can't.) Anyway, I have almost zero appreciation for art beyond 'that picture is kind of pretty,' but seeing as how there is a world class museum near where we now live, I'd always take him there each time he visited, and he told me that it had some of the best art galleries he'd ever checked out. I would have preferred to look at Dinasaur bones or classic airplanes and stuff like that, but he would spend all day in the different galleries practically studying the exhibits. I remember once there was an exhibit of some Dutch guy (not Van Gough) he felt really privileged to have seen and I also remember he enjoyed looking at the Jackson Pollack stuff, and honestly it did nothing for me, so I generally kicked back and checked out eye candy. I will say that I had to appreciate some of the stuff that came out of, I think, the Renascence period--the minute incredible detail they put into those huge paintings must have taken forever. Regardless, I just could not understand what made most of that stuff art worthy. I remember once there was an Andy Warhol exhibit we were looking at, and it included a case of tomato soup, and on that I guess I started badgering him and wouldn't let up. Basically: "What makes that art and why would they put it in a museum and why would anyone go out of their way to a museum to look at it?" He expressed annoyance or irritation or frustration with me, but he could not answer my question. Although I am sure that there is an answer. But he couldn't explain it. |
By the way i dont want to derail this thread but i just discover a new jazz pianist i like very much... I even ordered his book...His name is Randy Weston... Sorry i dont like to spoke about what i dislike...i am not perfect it seems i dislike really some music style... But rejoice! There is certainly some people who dislike me or Randy Weston who will explain why, then the thread will recuperate his speed... |
@immatthewj How ridiculous. Heck, even Bruce admits he dodged the draft. LOL Go ask your best friend, Google... here's the answer... "Yes, Bruce Springsteen was a "stone-cold draft dodger" who avoided the Vietnam War draft. He admitted to using various tactics to avoid military service, including claiming to be high on LSD and exhibiting erratic behavior during his induction physical." But immatthew doesn't like THAT answer so he wants to ignore the facts and change the definition. FYI ... Just so you know, yes, I was there. I joined. I went. So don't tell me I don't know what a draft dodger is and don't make stupid attempts at changing the definition.
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If i love something i can ponder and probe without end the multiple reasons for my ecstasy or love... I can even write poetry about the music i love...
If i dislike music or someone or worst if i hate it or him, i cannot even begin to think one second about my object hate or dislike or rejection and their causes...
It is normal to dislike some music or persons... The problem is hate makes us more stupid than we are... And makes us unable to discover sometimes the real reason behind our hate of some music or person...
It is why i entertain no grudges and i tried to be fair with the music i did not like much...
But nobody is perfect and i really dont like some music...And those who persist in hate...I like reason, and music full of creative and spiritual meanings... but the pleasure of one is the hell of another...
One of my friend was a jail advisor for the inmates... We discussed a lot... And i asked to him what music will create an immediate riot in jail ? He said a Mozart opera... |
@simao that may be the reason that going back in time I truly enjoyed cranking it up and listening to them. And as I typed a few posts ago, despite some of my baiting and judgmental previous posts, taste in music and many other things is personal and subjective, and although I like what I like and don't like what I don't like, I totally understand that what is right or wrong for me is not automatically right or wrong for anyone else. |
@foggyus91 to @immathewj “Some have a more mature musical pallet for the most part” Was that a scratch your eyes out comment there? The suspense is killing me….l hope it will last. |
That's scary. I may have to reevaluate. |
@mahgister has the same logic as you. He has stated he knows more about why he loves some artists music than the reasons why he dislikes certain other artists. l think we just grow out of some artists but only the great ones remain long term. That’s why the charity shops in the UK have loads of the same discarded artists on their shelves. I collect Original Soundtracks and l can guarantee when l look in charity shops over here l can always find multiple copies of “Titanic” “The Bodyguard” and “Gladiator” Pop music is no different….Robbie Williams, Take That, Christine Aguilera, Shania Twain. No Beatles or Stones EVER. This discussion is red hot today. Nearly 1000 visits l noticed just in one day. Over 22,000 to date.
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I won’t take any insult from that. But I cannot precisely put my finger on and articulate why I no longer like REO/Boston/Kansas/Styx/Alice Cooper/BTO/Nazareth/Head East/AC DC/etc except to say I no longer hear anything at all in the music that they produced that means anything to me or talks to me in any way. I can do a much better job of explaining why it is that I enjoy the music of the artists that I do like. But I realize that taste in probably everything is subjective and personal, and who am I to say what is right or wrong for anyone besides myself. |
@immatthewj REO Speedwagon What an answer. You answered a question without saying anything that could possibly offend anyone. And in the end said nothing in any way. In that way l mean nothing controversial ….Ha That sort of thing makes a great politician. No insult intended. Footnote…l don’t want anyone on here suggesting l am falling in love with you. I know this has been implied about you and some others on here.
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Not that you were addressing this to me, but I'll chime in anyway and offer a short answer: I used to listen to REO and Styx and Kansas and Boston and bands such as those in the late '70s and early '80s, and it is not so much that I am irritated by them now-a-days, but to me their music/lyrics no longer seems to have any depth. (I don't mean depth in a literal sense.) That would be my short answer. However, just because my tastes have changed with the passage of time, and although I have made some judgmental comments on this thread, I truly don't condemn anything that someone else appreciates just because I don't care for it. |
@aewarren ”Don’t ask a question….” Far from it l do want answers. I love to learn from an informed answer. No problemo. In truth you caught me ever so much out and you are entitled to say The Beatles murdered the song. You also proved my theory right. They covered another artists song. Eureka moment for me, thank you ever so. lt was probably after Twist and Shout The Beatles started to write more of there own songs and certainly post Rubber Soul. So many Lennon McCartney songs and consecutive number ones (8 l believe in the UK until Ticket to Ride) make people believe they wrote everything themselves. I fell into this trap too, hands up. |
@mylogic A Philadelphia R&B group called The Top Notes originally recorded Twist and Shout in 1961. It was a hit for The Isley Brothers in 1962. This was the version that the Beatles emulated in 1963. In this case, emulate is a euphemism for murder. Don't ask a question if you don't want people to answer. |
@immatthewj “Two different animals” Everyone to there own vices. I was just seeing the REO Speedwagon funny side and hope others “get” my odd sense of humour. l will say from some perspective on the two different “animals” and from personal experience. At lot of mental health problems in the UK are linked to humans becoming animals after partaking in excessive “recreational hobbies” Sometimes people just dismiss it and laugh it off, but with my own family incident, there is one less person in it now. |
This post aroused my interest, @mylogic , and I will only say (from a bit of experience) that cannabis products and most central nervous system stimulants are generally two different animals. |
No, @mylogic , as much as I like awards, I have read much longer posts in the short time I have been on A'gon. But thanks anyway. |
it would probably be helpful if some people understood the difference between the acts of draft evasion and draft resistance and showing up for the physical after getting the notice in the mail but not being selected for military service. And then probably it would be helpful to understand the difference between having your dad pay a doctor to write "a very strong letter" saying you have bone spurs and having your dad have you jumped to the head of the line to join the TANG in 1968 to fly the obsolete F-102 which was never going to see action in Vietnam. |
That was an excellent comment, @immatthewj! There aren't enough rational thoughts on this forum, so that was appreciated. |
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Thought of the day (from a previous post) ”The Beatles murdering Twist and Shout” Thinking logically….. No one ever talks about an original song sung by the original band of ever being accused of murdering it. They just say it’s awful rubbish or crap. l believe that “murdering a song” can only be levelled at a cover version of the original song performed by others.
l often recall The Troggs, “Wild Thing” After the lead singer played it to his girlfriend apparently she said, “That’s awful (or horrible)…..no one’s going to buy that!” No mention of murdering the song, but l don’t rule out what she might have done had he kept on playing it. |
@aewarren “Twist and Shout” Whats wrong with it? Any more evidence? l’m no “whipper snapper” now but if l twist too much, l shout. 🎶 John had a sore throat, and a bad back too Work it all out, Work it all out…..Ooooohh! |
