Basic switch....should I upgrade?


I'm using a D-Link switch into a EtherRegen (with an AfterDark PSU & Clock) via a Signature Ethernet Cable. Coming out of the EtherRegen I use a basic fiber optic cable into my streamer. (All connects/cables not mentioned are upgraded.)

Simply put, should I upgrade the switch or does the fantastic EtherRegen clean up the switch's audio shortcomings?

Please don't tell me to get a TT!  

wsrrsw

Many different takes on switches continues. I agree, lps on present switch is good way to go.

 

In my case, not convinced of using any switch, Netgear router with lps better than audiophile switch, or any switch for me. I recently went FMC route between router and server, nice, better than the switch in same position. Acoustic Network Muon filter will be compared to FMC in this position soon.

 

In any case, can't hurt trying everything and reporting back, adds to knowledge base.

 

Clear as mud as my Dad used to say. No I got this.

Thanks all.

So far my take away is defiantly cleanup power into the switch and a better switch could/should (????) help. A better switch would require finding out the voltage needed to power the unit.

@lalitk I just picked a random TT. Beauty is the the eye of the beholder.

@fredrik222 I’m trying to find a five port (need three) enterprise switch... none so far. The Silent Angel Bonn N8 - TCXO Audiophile Ethernet Network Switch @fastfreight uses to my reading of the specs look very good and it uses a 5V source too. Thoughts?

About a TT when we moved...you can guess the rest.

Clean it all up. Yes!

 

If your streamer looks just as exquisite as this TT then by all means skip the TT 😊 Back to your query, I don’t think changing out switch before EtherREGEN would yield much improvement. I do like the suggestion of upgrading to iFI 5V power supply on your existing D-Link switch.

I don't have a clue what you guys are talking about.🤔  Too old school I guess.

You can’t “clean up” a bad network switch. Bad network equipment causes packet loss, jitter, and other bad things. 
 

think of it as have a super clean and transparent window, and shine light light through it, the light looks exactly like intended. But if you but a dirty old  window between the source and the clean window, the clean window can’t do anything at all to “clean up” the source. 
 

that said, the transfer protocols at the layers above take care of quality, with a crappy network switch like d link, you may experience enough issues that it could potentially impact sound quality, and there is nothing you can add to fix this. Now, “audiophile” switches are typically not better from my research, you really need an enterprise switch, from juniper, extreme networks, or arista for example. 

I've been following the advice of @melm, ​​@dbb, & @sns  with streaming improvements & it's been VERY beneficial. 

  • D-Link DGS105 switch (with ifi iPower X power supply 5v)
  • AQ Pearl Ethernet cables 
  • Fiber Patch Cable (30')
  • 2 Ethernet to Fiber converters (both with ifi iPower X power supplies 5v)
  • Linear Power Supply to streamer (I went with Nuprime LPS-212)

 

The cost to improvement ratio has been a bargain.

I also need a switch going into my nucleus.  I bought the Silent Angel Bonn 8 and I think it helped vs the old netgear.  I power my Nucleus with an HD Plex and there is an extra output so I power my switch this way also. I use an Ifi power station  to plug in all my computer stuff.

My ether regen is downstairs with the audio stuff, feeding directly into my streamer Auralic G2.1 with Supra cat 8 on both sides.  Then USB into my Tambaqui.  Everything matters. 

@audphile1 I have tired direct into EtherREGEN (can’t tell much of a difference, hymn) but need a switch in my set up for a roon nucleus, ect. Thx

Yes D Link switch.

 

I just got the iFi 5v power supply for my D-Link 105 and will be testing it vs the supplied smps this weekend. The switch by itself with the included smps made a positive difference though. @wsrrsw have you tried without switch direct into EtherREGEN? Does the switch before the ER improves things?

I can’t advise on a better switch, but to bring the D-Link to its potential it needs a better power supply than supplied. An iFi iPower 5v will do just fine. Also, be sure to ground the unit using the screw on the back.

I assume you’re using a DGS105 or similar.  Apparently some expensive switches use a D-Link inside a fancy case.

I use a Netgear router via WiFi  to a Netgear wall wart extender with Ethernet cable to a EtherRegen and cable to my streamer. My streamer / digital end sounds as good as my really good vinyl rig.

 

Everything matters, but at the level of performance I currently am experiencing, I am very happy. Maybe I’ll play with it someday. I am enjoying the music right now.