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Best song for immediate impact when presenting or testing?
I was at an Audio shop recently, listening to my standards, and wanted to show the sales consultant a piece that he might not have heard. I played 'Golden Rust' off the Miles Gurtu album. After about 30 seconds, he pulled out his device and added the song to his favorites. I asked why did he add so quickly, and he said that the opening electronica had a three dimensional stereophonic quality that made a remarkable impression right off the bat. I paraphrase lightly; that was his comment.
What pieces do you play of any genre that have an immediate impact, especially for people listening to a good system for the first time?
@cmjones - I prefer John Hiatt's original version of "Feels Like Rain", by a wide margin, over the Aaron Neville version. Neville is a undoubtedly a great vocalist. However, John Hiatt's interpretation of his own song is more raw and emotional. Have you heard the original version, on Hiatt's "Slow Turning" album? I've used it as a reference many times over the years..... |
Feenbrothers plays Brubeck. One mic live recording. Completely phase coherent. Even the youtube sample sounds great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92h_GJnHiGI |
The new one mic recording from Sound Liaison with Carmen Gomes is very impressive. I was at the Audio Show Alkmaar 2019 and three different speaker manufactures were using the Carmen Gomes ''Don't You Cry'' album. I bought the red book CD at the show. Carmen is selling it via her BandCamp site; https://carmengomes.bandcamp.com/music I also have the DXD download from https://www.soundliaison.com/ |
millercarbon actually totally gets it, albeit he/she comes off a bit self-righteous. In thirty years of ‘demos’ I’ve found it best to ease your guest(s) into the music by slowly engaging them with something simple... and not try to impress with SPL or intensity. As the listening session progresses I’ve found it best to slowly increase the complexity with each selection. Works every time— and yes, this is where women become completely engaged. The ‘dudes’ that are expecting to get their faces melted from Money For Nothing are a little surprised at first, but I treat them with a cut like that at the end of the session— and by then, everyone is into it and completely drawn in... this, by slowly engaging in the process of active LISTENING, allowing everyone to relax and settle in at the beginning. millercarbon’s comment about why there are hardly any women audiophiles is SO true, I just had to laugh. Been sharing my system and doing demo listening sessions for about 35 years... and my friends have come to expect it to be something like sailing or a day at the spa. Music on a great system can be a magical experience— especially for first timers. If we’re good (audiophile) stewards, they’ll beg us to invite them over again. Note: For maximum effect I have extremely comfortable seating choices and I turn off all the lights. I mean— I create a TOTAL blackout (panel lights, any and all light is removed). I also make sure the noise floor is as low as possible. (HVAC and cell phones are silenced, etc). This creates a kind of sensory deprivation, and can make ALL the difference in enhancing the overall experience. Ok... now back to the initial question: My ALL TIME starter is the first track, ‘Wenyukela’ from Ladysmith Black Mambzo’s Grammy-winning Raise Your Spirit Higher Telarc surround SACD. It has ZERO instruments! Vocal only. S African voices in choir form that are so beautifully sung and arranged that, from the first note the experience becomes transcendent. I’ve noticed that if we give listeners the least amount of reference possible, they will immediately turn off their analytical mind and instead fall into a state where they’re more likely to be drawn in emotionally. The fact that they’re hearing voices in a foreign language and arangement style that’s totally unfamiliar means listeners will focus only on the beauty of the breathtaking SOUND instead of the message, clever poetry, the punch of the bass drum or even make a chronological reference due to the era in which it was recorded. I’m a hi res digi guy. My rig is a correctly set up full blown pro mastering level surround system (Emm Labs 6-ch head end). This recording is absolutely THE BEST way to start it off. What blows guests away is the sheer simplicity. Telarc really nailed it with this one and I can see why it won the Grammy in 2004. If you get the surrounds and subs balanced, it’s a complete 3D sound experience; it’s spellbinding— and especially in the dark. Musically it’s a warm blanket on a cold night. Then, I’ll move onto other artists and genres more familiar, adding a few more simple instruments and complexity of production as I go. Over the decades I’ve found this kind of demo hands down works the best. I even start with only half my rig turned on (Genelec Active), then as the evening progresses I turn on the large format JBL studio monitors; six (4435s) with six Crown Ref 1 amps to melt their faces... lol... until they finally get Sting’s voice flying around their heads “I want my, ... my MTV”. :-) |
millercarbon actually totally gets it, albeit although he/she comes off a bit self-righteous. In thirty years of ‘demos’ I’ve found it best to ease your guest(s) into the music by slowly engaging them with something simple... and not try to impress with SPL or intensity. As the listening session progresses I’ve found it best to slowly increase the complexity and intensity with each selection. Works every time— and yes, this is where women become completely engaged. The ‘dudes’ that are expecting to get their faces melted from Money For Nothing are a little surprised at first, but I end up treating them with a cut like that at the end of the session— and by then, everyone is into it and completely drawn in... this, by slowly taking in the process of active LISTENING, yet allowing themselves to relax and settle in at first. millercarbon’s comment about why there are hardly any women audiophiles is SO true, I just had to laugh. Been sharing my system and doing listening sessions for 30 years... and my friends have come to expect something like like sailing on an alpine lake or a day at the spa. Music on a great system can be a magical experience— especially for first timers. If we’re good (audiophile) stewards, they’ll beg you to invite them over again. Note: For maximum effect I have extremely comfortable seating choices and I turn off all the lights. I mean— I create a TOTAL blackout (panel lights, any and all light is removed). I also make sure the noise floor is as low as possible. (HVAC and cell phones are silenced, etc). This creates a kind of sensory deprivation, and can make ALL the difference in enhancing the overall experience. Ok... now back to the initial question: My ALL TIME starter is the first track, ‘Wenyukela’ from Ladysmith Black Mambzo’s Grammy-winning Raise Your Spirit Higher Telarc surround SACD. It has ZERO instruments! Vocal only. S African voices in choir form that are so beautifully sung and arranged that, from the first note the experience becomes transcendent. I’ve noticed that if we give listeners the least amount of reference possible, they will immediately turn off their analytical mind and instead fall into a state where they’re more likely to be drawn in emotionally. The fact that they’re hearing voices in a foreign language and arangement style that’s totally unfamiliar means listeners will focus only on the beauty of the breathtaking SOUND instead of the message, clever poetry, the punch of the bass drum or even make a chronological reference due to the era in which it was recorded. I’m a hi res digi guy. My rig is a correctly set up full blown pro mastering level surround system (Emm Labs 6-ch head end). This recording is absolutely THE BEST way to start it off. What blows guests away is the sheer simplicity. Telarc really nailed it with this one and I can see why it won the Grammy in 2004. If you get the surrounds and subs balanced, it’s a complete 3D sound experience; it’s spellbinding— and especially in the dark. Musically it’s a warm blanket on a cold night. Then, I’ll move onto other artists and genres more familiar, adding a few more simple instruments and complexity of production as I go. Over the decades I’ve found this kind of demo hands down works the best. I even start with only half my rig turned on (Genelec Active), then as the evening progresses I turn on the large format JBL studio monitors; six (4435s) with six Crown Ref 1 amps to melt their faces... lol... until they finally get Sting’s voice flying around their heads “I want my, ... my MTV”. :-) |
There are so many great tunes which were well recorded... When I was selling audio gear in the early 80's I used Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark for vocals.. if I wanted to show off dynamics or impact of a kick drum I used Bruce Cockburn's Wondering where the lions are.. Heard that once on a pair of Infinity Rs 4.5's driven by a Mark Levinson ML 3. Search that one out. Again so many great ones to use. |
This is pretty amazing Sound Quality; https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=70ExO947Gs8 |
I just heard the ATCSCm40 speakers, 'wow' and super 'wow'. The track they played was Sans Saens - Danse Macabre. I know this track well but hearing it through these speakers bought out the full majesty of this music. The speakers have this skill of portraying the actual tone/timbre of the musical instrument. This piece has various instruments playing this lovely sort of demonic/cemetery tune, hearing the violins was exquisite pleasure. Also I could hear each instrument seperately in the orchestra or enjoy the full orchestra at once. The whole experience was like a thrilling ride on the big dipper in a fair ground! |
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Here are a few Johnny A-Two Wheel Horse Steely Dan-Royal Scam Dire Straits-6 Blade Knife Jeff Golub-Drop Top Joyce Cooling-Green Impala Jimmy Thackery-Minor Step Steve Hunter-222 W 23rd Mark Lettieri-Everybody Wants To Rule The World Rammstein-Du Hast Megadeth-Symphony Of Destruction Harvey Mandel-Baby Batter The Aristocrats-Bad Asteroid Jethro Tull-Bouree Grinder Switch-Pick'n The Blues Vince Guardali-Linus And Lucy Deadato-Super Strut Bela Fleck And The Flecktones-Sinister Minister Bela Fleck And The Flecktones -Flight Of The Cosmic Hippo Pink Floyd-Various Diff songs Jackson Browne-Sergio Leone Joe Bonamassa-Several His Songs Lee Ritenour-Boss Infected Mushroom-Never Mind |
https://www.amazon.com/Round-Up-Erich-Kunzel/dp/B000FKO40C If your system give wide and deep soundstage, then this CD will impress your guest. My system give holographic image of the first track. Horses are moving around. Thomas |
Seems that marking a playlist as public is not sufficient. Here's the link: https://open.qobuz.com/playlist/2104851 |
Greetings all. Thanks for playing. I created a public playlist on Qobuz called Cheap & Tawdry. It's about 80% accurate. Some tracks I couldn't find, and I often selected another from the same artist. When a whole album was called out, I picked the first track. The variety of songs is wider than I expected. Some are amazing, many are good to great, others leave me puzzled. As always, de gustibus non disputandum est. Cheers! |
The best song, or piece of music, in my opinion, is the one that is a favorite of your guest. It is close to their heart. It has emotional resonance for them. They think they know it so well that they might say that it’s virtually tattooed into their brain. You invite them over, you ask for their favorites, you pick one, throw it on the table, drop the needle and play. And then you watch their eyes as they go from an expression of incredulity to tears. Its worked over a dozen times for me. |
Great thread, OP, got me listening to some old stone-cold classics and adding many new ones to my "must listen to" list. Here's a couple more - Billy Cobham - "Searching for the Right Door/Spectrum" from Spectrum. Great drums on intro and throughout, excellent PRAT qualities. Massive Attack - "Inertia Creeps" from Mezzanine. Lake Street Dive - "Mistakes" from Side Pony. First Aid Kit - "Emmylou" from The Lion's Roar. Morphine - "Dawna/Bueno" from Cure for Pain. And lately I keep returning to the recent Handel's Italian Cantatas performed by Sabine Devieilhe, Lea Desandre, and Emmanuelle Haim. |
My two cents.. 1. Dave Brubeck’s “Take Five” for all the reasons previously cited. This one’s a jazz classic. 2. Jazz at the Pawnshop, vol 1, especially “Limehouse Blues” & “High Life”. Not only terrific jazz but masterfully engineered. The detail, the dynamic range & the imaging will really shine on a good system. I especially like the interplay between the alto sax and the marimbas. My face always hurts after a good listen (too much smiling) 3. A recent find & current fav is Cyndi Lauper’s “At Last”, title track & “Until You Come Back to Me” in particular. Vocals can really show the strengths of a nice system, as well as expose weaknesses. Cyndi’s voice will test your system and please your ears. A two-fer. |
Vinyl: Neil Diamond, Hot (August Night) side 3 "Canta Libre" or "Morningside" Vinyl: Pink Floyd (Dark Side of the Moon) "Time" Vinyl: Herb Alpert't Tijuana Brass (Whipped Cream & Other Delights) any cut CD: Hillbilly Winos (Live from the Living Room) any cut CD: Van Morrison (Avalon Sunset) "These Are The Days" CD: Pink Floyd (Division Bell) "High Hopes" or any other cut CD: Sting (all this time) "Perfect Love", "Moon Over Bourbon Street" CD: Jane Monheit (The Very Best Of) "Hit The Road To Dreamland" CD: Hugh Masekela (hope) "Stimela" (The Coal Train) Anything Sade So many more that I might choose......Jim |
Kandace Springs Breakdown La Vie (Pop Mix) Philippe Saisse Elton John Rocket Man Honky Chateau Gordon Lightfoot If You Could Read My Mind It Ain't No Use Trombone Shorty Parking Lot Symphony Lake Street Dive I Want You Back Fun Machine Whirlpool Seal The Rare Collection a-ha The Sun Always Shines on TV MTV Unplugged Summer Solstice Michael Hedges Aerial Boundaries Pure Michael Hedges Splendor in the Grass Pink Martini God of Wonders Paul Baloche (live) The Ladder Paula Cole Harbinger I Don't Know Shawn Colvin The Greatest 60's Album Along the Road Dan Fogelberg Live at Carnegie Hall Friends Brandt Brauer Frick Ensemble Mr Machine Be Here Now Ray LaMontagne Til the Sun Turns Black Driving Everything But the Girl Acoustic (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay Sara Barieilles Brave Enough: Live at the Variety Playhouse The Windmills of Your Mind Alison Moyet Voice (reissue Deluxe) Cantaloop (Flip Out) Manhattan Transfer The Junction Humilitas Lesiem Auracle I didn't select these to impress people, but are some that I use in assessment of audio system performance. However, with an extreme system several of these are impressive performances. In reviewing I use lists such as this to not only tell the limits of the system's performance, but tune the system. |
Not sure what everyones criteria for testing out a system but I don't understand how some of the listed tunes above can provide any valuable input. Just my opinion. I look for more natural recordings of instruments and vocals, something with dynamic swings, and complex passages. I want to know how a system reproduces the space in the soundstage and the tone of each instrument. Jaco Pastorius, Rickie Lee Jones POP POP, just to name a few. Happy Listening. |
My main album to audition speakers for the past few years has been "Another Lifetime" by Simon Phillips. It is well written, well played and very well recorded. I got them to play it in the SVS room at Capital Audiofest a few years ago and in the 5 minutes it was playing, three different people picked-up the case to see what it was. It takes about 2 minutes for it to really get going. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz-Vs-jdJIU |
Haelos Full Circle Album: Pray Dust Earth Not Above NOTE: People are surprise by such an undiscovered group from the UK Beck Albumn: Heart is a Drum Morning NOTE: Heard this plenty at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest London Grammar: Hey Now Weltentraum Live Albumn by Michael Wollny Little Person NOTE: Best demo for bass extension you will ever hear |
1. Gino Vanelli’s Powerful People 1974 2. I second Take Five, Dave Brubeck 3. Chuck Mangione’s Children of Sanchez 1978 4. The Feeling of Jazz by Dianne Reeves with Wynton Marsalis My first choice ( a “GREAT” prentation track chosen then by the store) Im a senior in HS and listen to this in North Miami Beach at the very first Sound Advice store (now long gone high-end chain started with drug money). Saved up and bought my first pair of Infinity’s. Gino still has an amazing voice! The entire album “POWERFUL PEOPLE” is stellar. # 2 A top 5 all-time jazz hit # 4 last year in Tampa Florida “made me” buy new speakers replacing B&W N802’s with Paradigm Persona 7F’s. A Very good digital presentation track listen to it and you can understand the store using it as a great demo track. # 3 the percussion and Chuck’s flugelhorn are terrific! Happy listening to all, looking forward to everyone’s responses.. Dave |
For listeners that enjoy vocals, especially female vocals: "Bells and Roses", "If I Were a Man", or anything else really on Roseanne Cash's 10 Song Demo album. This audition made a wife of a buddy insist he upgrade his gear in several ways I suggested. Somewhat more tawdry: "Free Me" off Joss Stone's album Colour Me Free. OK, tawdry-er yet, Lou Reed performing "Sweet Jane" on the Live on Letterman: Music From The Late Show. And, for flat out out crazy, ignite a party, turn it up tawdry-ness, "Snow Bunny" by Bootsy Collins off of his World Wide Funk disc. Or, whatever they want to hear... ;-) |
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This list gives me a nice cross-section of musical tastes and moods that I typically find myself engaging in and brings out the best in my admittedly mid-fi system: Frank Morgan "Mood Indigo" CD Miles Davis "Freddie The Freeloader" from "Kind Of Blue" Jaco Pastorius "Continuum" off his self-title debut album Bob Dylan "Things Have Changed" Lyle Lovett (anything) Pat Metheny (anything) Steely Dan (most anything, but "Only A Fool Would Say That" from "Can't Buy A Thrill" and "West Of Hollywood" off "Two Against Nature" in particular) Dave Grusin’s "Migration" CD Shivaree, track "Goodnight Moon" Jerry Joseph "Happy Book" Karl Richter’s interpretation of Bach’s "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor" Alison Krauss + Union Station "Live" CD Mahler’s 9th from Claudio Abbado + Lucerne Festival Orchestra |