Cable manufacturers?

The Wan Lung factory in Taiwan is licensed to produces UP-OCC Copper and UP-OCC Silver for the Audio Sensibility, Acoustic Zen, Atlas Cables, DoubleHelix, Harmonic Technology, Neotech, XLO, Analysis Plus, MIT, Purist Audio Design, WireWorld

Furukawa of Japan is licensed to produce PCOCC Copper for Audio Sensibility, Audience, Audioquest, Furutech, Oyaide, PS Audio

Sumitomo of Japan is also licensed to produce OCC cables

Love the gibberish

@ hasmarto,


IIRC there are 6? places that make OCC using the hardware. I don't know how many are 'approved', in any case. My guess was and is an off the cuff guess on qualities, as I stopped investigating wire, when I stumbled into the understanding that conducting a simile of a plasma arc strike through the equivalent of a conductive heavy gas, was far more true to the signal. As the signal and conductor could be as they should, which is 'as one', in the dynamic flow domain, which is where impedance becomes a problem and consideration. The impedance issue remains a problem with solid wire and ceases to be as big of a problem in a conductive molecular-level fluid. In solid lattice structure it is a problem in the delta of the transient domain, which is critical to the ear. In a fluid conductor, a true fluid, this is where the problem area and issue --- least exists. Not as conductive as a lattice structure copper or silver... but the problem area that concerns the ear - is virtually gone. And a whole whack of other stuff going on....

On the subject of the wire...I'm referring to the "PC-OCC' as opposed to OCC, in case there is a difference in how it is labelled and sold, etc.Your response seems to be indicating there is possibly this difference, of OCC vs PC-OCC.

@lalitk 
No, I haven't tried them but I was seriously considering them before I went for some Zu Audio Event speaker cables that were so nicely discounted that I couldn't resist. 😃

All the best,
Nonoise

@nonoise, Thank you for sharing the Cabledyne info. Have you tried their cables? I am inclined to try out their 'Virtuoso' RCA digital cable.  

Well, I didn't start this thread for any other point except curiosity. So I don't plan to do anything with this information. And in case anyone is wondering, I don't believe all cable sounds the same.  I do believe that there is some truly astonishing BS being peddled. And there are some excellent cables too. Personally, I am a fan of OCC cable. 

Cabledyne sources their ISO9001 (6 nines) and ISO9002 (7 nines) pure silver wire from WL Electronics in Taiwan and states that it’s one of the top suppliers. It’s single crystal UP-OCC high purity silver wire.

With the wild west attitude that Asia brings to market, it’s reasonably certain that the quality is right up there with Japan since it meets ISO certification.

All the best,
Nonoise

teo_audio, you wrote "Considering the exactness of the process for OCC (Ohno Continuous Cast)(Dr. Atsumi Ohno) , and it's origins in Japan, it might be that Japan has the best sounding copper."

Now I don't understand, as far I know, besides Furukawa in Japan, only Wan Lung of Taiwan has the license to produce OCC formula-based wire, so is Wan Lung's product inferior? I'm talking about the raw wire, which many world-famous manufacturers buy from them.

I don’t think it is possible to make 8 9’s copper or 8 9’s purity in anything.

But I’m ready to be wrong about that.

the OCC processes, is, IIRC... used for making the physically longest known and 'commercially realized' single crystals in copper wire.

Which country has the best sounding copper is probably debatable.

Considering the exactness of the process for OCC (Ohno Continuous Cast)(Dr. Atsumi Ohno) , and it’s origins in Japan, it might be that Japan has the best sounding copper. Not all OCC copper is created equal.

The only question in my mind is who the heck makes eight 9s copper wire and who makes the long crystal wire or single crystal wire? Oh, and which country has the best sounding copper?

Cardas either makes his, or has it made for him. Lots of other companies buy their wire from him, including Audio Advisor/Pangea.

"Anyone have any actual Information?"

OP, what are you planning to do with this info?

To answer your query, I believe Acrolink and Oyaide manufacture their own wire (conductor). 

So, cable manufacturers (designers and assemblers) must be alchemist? Can't tell if your post is humor. I hope so.

Dave

zavato: "By manufacture, I mean their own wire"

The real question when you get down to basics is:

How many of them mine and smelt their own metal, which is used to make the wire?

Eggs Akley & the Vulture Demonesses!

Eggs Akley! If it walks like a troll, etc., etc.

Is this just another one in a long series of all wire sounds the same with a different premise thread? 

Zavato, you are correct, most have to buy the wire, then make the conductor with some wire geometry based on pseudo science, give the geometry some exotic name, terminate with off-the-shelf plugs, dress them up, mark them up 1000% and viola - you now have audiophile cables!

Well, there's determining which way the ARROWS go, for one thing. And cryogenically treating them, which almost all self-respecting high end companies do. Termination is critical, too.

We make our own 'conductor'. Not 'wire', in this case. :)

I was gonna forge the wire of my generation in the smithy of my soul

but then I decided... ah what the hell

By manufacture, I mean their own wire

How do you define 'manufacture their own cable'? Almost no one draws their own wire, but plenty of manufacturers do a lot more than throw on some jacketing and terminations. There is winding and geometry, dialectrics, shielding, and plenty more. Some makers mix different conducting materials. Many have wire custom drawn for them. There are many levels and facets to manufacturing.

Using all Furutech power cords and some interconnects Furutech makes all there own cables.