Enjoy your quarantine listening while you can


It may not last for as long as we thought. HCQ has cured 100% of China virus in a top study, and Trump is expediting FDA approval. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtXWKAVNSvE

Skip to 2:13 for the report.
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Personally you can call it whatever you like, its the results and impact that are the concern not its name
So yes I am going to let it drop as it is of little import under the circumstances.
But it was universally known in the media as coronavirus UNTIL our glorious leader started spouting China Virus.
At least that is the first occasion I heard it referenced as such.
And if there were earlier reference so be it, I am no expert and do not claim to be.
Do me a favour and run a quick google search.
Try corona virus
then try china virus
Calling it China (better Wuhan) virus in 2020 is much more specific that calling it Coronavirus. How about trying SARS-CoV-2, if we really want to be picky about accuracy?
You clowns just can’t help yourselves can you.... radical left ears and conservative right ears.... enough already
If it were ears only, it would be a pleasure. Here we have (virtual) tongues.
How about Covid-19. The swine flu isn't referred to as the North American flu or the Mexican flu and it wasn't in 2009 either.
As far as the nut in a previous post griping about Italy not imposing a travel ban with China well they imposed one before the US did as soon as they found the first 2 cases. 
I am sure this will upset some members as well but oh well....

Last I checked this was an audio related forum and although the OP links very tenuously to audio in the title we all can see it has nothing to do with audio whatsoever.
Now we could argue the actual merits of the topic all day long but the fact remains it has no place in these forums.

There are plenty of platforms for this type of topic, here is NOT one of them.

I am surprised that admin have not deep sixed this thread a long time ago.


Enjoy this open conversation -and each other- while we can... We are seeing the gates closing on free and open conversation on the internet. “Misinformation”, certain subjects (like this one) and even certain words (or ‘trigger’ words) are being flagged and AI algorithms are removing the posts. Currently happening mainly on social media (and I’d argue some here would say it’s happened to them) but it is only the beginning and people are already having to uses symbols or code words to talk about certain things. Opinions, beliefs and assumptions can get you censored, shadow banned or outright banned. Add that we already know that Google is censoring or throttling search results and it’s not hard to imagine where this is all going... Just wait until these voice device persist even more and we are given just one answer to queries...
Now back to your regularly scheduled program...for now... ;) 
I hope this is true but everything I’ve read says that this drug and some others show positive results but not 100%. There is WAY too much misinformation out there and it looks like this is just one more case. 
No thanks for any panic drugs.  I'll take my chances and let this run its course.  I figure it will be gone in 4 months.
You can rationalize all you want but calling a serious threat insulting names to suit your purpose is counterproductive and uncalled for. It just creates another distraction from the task at hand. Very poor judgement once again for a leader in time of crisis to do this.


80k people already recovered from Covid. Of course those numbers will grow much faster than the severe outcomes.

Here's a business idea. Restaurants are empty. Start opening them up, calling them "X-C... "whatever specialty" .
XC is for people who are now immune who've had it already. People working there are XCs as well. These numbers will grow. We need somewhere to start. Need to show documents at the door like ID. ID good for 12 months... then move on. Keep cycling. 
Not just restaurants. Casinos, bars, etc...

XC. 

cissado,


I was thinking something similar this morning. Dating apps like that. Covinder.

I live in a medium sized city. 12 confirmed cases, 1 death, 3 recoveries. Which restuarant opens for these 3 people, draw lots? 
Just in,

New York City confirmed cases double overnight.
The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York City more than doubled overnight on Wednesday, with 1,871 people testing positive for the disease.

There were 948 new coronavirus cases on Wednesday. New York City Mayor, Bill de Blasio, had announced on Tuesday that the total number of confirmed cases stood at 923. It marks the largest one-day increase of the Covid-19 disease in New York.

One week ago, the total number of coronavirus cases in New York state was 216, and 11 in the week before that. The state’s governor, Andrew Cuomo, announced on Wednesday morning that there were now 2,382 confirmed coronavirus cases in New York state, of which 1,871 were in New York City.

Mayor Bill de Blasio said,

"Yesterday we saw a jump of a hundred cases, today we saw a jump of hundreds of cases," said Mayor de Blasio.

"You are talking about a massive surge in demand. We have been appealing constantly to the federal government to start a supply system that will actually help our hospitals survive an unprecedented surge in cases. This is the problem."

The Mayor added: "Hospitals are going to have massive new demands, and things like surgical masks - you just burn through those in a normal day let alone in an emergency".

"President Trump has to mobilise the United States military to fully act in the coronavirus situation."

Asked by CNN news anchor Andrew Cooper if he wanted to see the United States military setting up hospitals in the streets of New York City, Mayor de Blasio said "I do’’.

"I am talking about the United States military going where they can save the most lives of Americans, and that’s places like New York, Seattle and California and soon that’s going to be a lot of other places"

“100% cured” -  because we can “trust” the Chinese....cmon
Funny, Spanish Flue originated in Kansas. Why not call it “Trump Flu” because it happened under his watch and he knew about it a while ago?
Much thanks to comrade de Blasio assuming an appropriate, for him, totalitarian response. ☭
But seriously, folks:

Community is community.  This may not be the subject of this forum, but this is affecting/worrying the audiophile community. Let’s not be too nit picky on things, be respectful and keep open the lines of communication.

I’m in quarantine like many of us.  Not so difficult for me since I practice social distancing as a matter of course as an introvert.  Listening to music and watching Netflix all day is actually kind of wonderful, and I spend time checking in on my elderly parents and my grandkids.  However, I am worried about the misinformation and misinterpretation I see in the news and on the internet.   I would like to take a moment to point out a few things:

1. Please keep in mind the reported numbers are cases AS WE KNOW THEM.  A spike in numbers just means more widespread testing is showing results.  Remember how West Virginia had no cases for the longest time?  Turns out they weren’t testing people.  If you don’t look for something you won’t see it.  When I was taking a statistical analysis class in grad school that was beat into us.  As an Air Force intel officer I was always focused on the validity of the source.  People/organizations/countries have various reasons for reporting information, and sometimes the reports are wrong.

2. There is no parity when it comes to reporting information.  You need to determine the validity of your source.  I have been following reporting on the coronavirus and have developed source validity criteria for several sources.  In general terms:  Good are Dr Fauci, South Korean government statistics, NPR, BBC, PBS, Washington Post and NY Times.   Bad are Chinese government statistics, Fox News, Trump, email strings, Facebook, Twitter, etc.  Accurate but need to be careful are MSNBC, CNN, local news due to inexperienced reporters / editors and a tendency towards hyperbole.

3. Which brings me to the “cure” being discussed: chloroquine.  Sorry, but no.  Chloroquine is being studied.   That’s all.  There is some preliminary evidence it might be used to shorten the severe period.  Preliminary.   And for someone who has taken chloroquine and mefloquine, and been around people who have, I can tell you it might not be the panacea you think it is.  Chloroquine needs to be taken daily to protect you from some strains of malaria.  It does not cure malaria.  It also has some nasty side effects for some people, including psychosis and death. Mefloquine is taken once a week, with fewer side effects.  I would be curious to see the Coronavirus case reporting in regions where malaria drugs are more prevalent, e.g. Africa.  
4. There are a lot of questions out there, and a lot of ignorance as well.  Having been through a couple of epidemic situations in the past (viral meningitis and viral  conjunctivitis Northeast Brazil 1984, Chikungunya Gabon 2009) I have to point out that viruses are active and persistent threats.  You have to be diligent with protective measures such as washing hands, covering sneezes And coughs, and social distancing or the threat will grow and come back.  And it will take longer than expected.  The best advice I heard was from a medical reporter, who said she is planning for eight weeks in quarantine; if it’s less then she will feel relieved , if it gets extended to 12 weeks then she can handle it.  
5. Viruses don’t respect your opinion.  They use you to breed, then move on after they kill you. * Insert ex-spouse joke here*

6.  I am loving my new Bluesound PowerNode 2i streamer. I have my Apple TV plugged in and can listen to Qobuz or watch TV through my 2- speaker system

7. it’s spring and I am stuck at home.  Time for some deep spring cleaning!

8.  When it call comes down to it, let reality be your guide. People are kind and gentle, people are cruel and ignorant, people will suffer and  die.  Take care of yourself, love your family, and most important of all...assess the risk.

i think at this point I will find some happy music and have an early lunch.
@jriggy Since when is the internet "open and free"? Sites are owned by either government or private entities - like Audiogon. Free speech means the guvmint may not abridge or censor one's speech. Private companies, even publicly owned ones like facebook, can censor however they choose
I said “open conversation” Sheesh, you people on this site. No wonder everything degrades so often. 
So funny that you think the censoring from these purposefully kept private entities are simply acting this way all separately, on their own, at the same time...and to the minute in certain cases.  
If you do not see the gates closing on free and open SPEACH, you aren’t paying enough attention in the right areas. They’ve all already been outed for colluding against dissenting voices, together and separate... .

For those who need it...

This is a digital health care symptom automat detector... It is free...

https://www.symptoma.com/

Typing covid 19 gives you 30 questions to answer with some diagnostic at the end...

It cannot replace a doctor but can help those who cautious will isolate themselves if they had doubts before consulting...

My prayers for  all....
Its time for people here to grow up .Knocking a guy because he likes Polk speakers and not B&W  is one thing because he likes tubes over what you have is another.We have something  going  that for it to reach the Spanish  flu or just the avg.flu season ,people better start dropping dead like flies.Which I for one don't see happening.If this was never broadcasted as worst than the flu ,would it even been news ? The numbers don't  add up.What I do see happening is people hurting, and not using their minds for what to do correctly. STOP ,LOOK and LISTEN. Hum haven't  we hear that before ,yes but that wasn't for this was it ? Get the point my Friends. The truth is right in front of your eyes .