Enjoy your quarantine listening while you can


It may not last for as long as we thought. HCQ has cured 100% of China virus in a top study, and Trump is expediting FDA approval. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtXWKAVNSvE

Skip to 2:13 for the report.
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What this means is this? unpreparedness with chaotic non organized reactions will not work.... To be AHEAD OF THE CURVE is not only flattening the curve dear scientist, the Chinese produce extreme confinement measure with prodigious testing facilities....


The French did a small clinical study using hydroxychoroquine and azithromycin on 20 people and found it held promise and further testing should be done.
the Chinese produce a study with great number of cases... Chinese science is trash?

When the times is urging not using a 4 cent product with very low negative effects is akin to stupidity...
Why so angry, grasshopper? Don’t dwell on the past. It can do no good. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason. Who cares about China? The US has the best doctors in the world. It was the US military experts at Ft. Detrick, MD, home to the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command (USAMRMC), with its bio-defense agency, the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases(USAMRIID) who solved Ebola and other recent pandemics.
I wasn't aware the Chinese did a clinical study I thought they simply used it as did the South Koreans. I am sure it will be used fairly quick here under our medical requirements and supervision. 
FDA just approve chloroquine use, and Bayer offer to send it...

Good news because chloroquine obstruct it seems the worst when you suffer the infection... Great vitamine c dose can act also to help....There will be other drug available but this one is cheap already here and relatively safe...Good news and we need it...
Sadly because there is no definitive treatment for SARS Covid-19 we are reaching for straws. The study quoted had too few patients to be statistically significant. HCQ does show antiviral activity for HIV when combined with other specific anti-HIV drugs. HCQ is not benign. There are dose related effects and for doses greater than 400 mg daily the side effects are significant including possible permanent blindness. The trials will take many weeks and it’s difficult to design trials for mildly symptomatic patients. The Chinese physicians found no difference in ICU admission or mortality but HCQ was added late in the course. For now, hold your horses. 
P.S.  I just retired from 37 years of medicine with direct patient contact and the last 28 years were Emergency Medicine. 

mahgister
FDA just approve chloroquine use, and Bayer offer to send it...

>>>>>Are you sure? I watched the noon briefing by Trump et al and he misspoke, the drug is not immediately available but currently under study by FDA. The head of FDA the former cancer doctor indicated it would not (rpt not) be ready immediately and that FDA would be thorough and careful. Did FDA approve it only six hours later? Not bloody likely! Nobody would trust that. Hel-loo!
Yes it was too few which is why the French doctors said it needed further testing they said they released the results because of the urgency 
It is an epidemiologic study in progress. "Audiophile mental health changes under extreme stress from perceived danger"
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chrshanl37,

This was really informational. However, if you intend for people to read it in the future, try to keep it under five sentences or your message will be lost. Who is going to read this much of the poetry in the evening? Especially such a poorly constructed poetry.

"...it will be gone by tomorrow chrshan37."

Do we have to wait that long?
I read it all and it simply validated what I've know for the last three years.
To take it down would be both negligent and harmful as there's an educational value to it for those who are wondering what is going on and why.

By the way, some evil genius who works in an ER came up with a ventilator hack that can service 4 patients from the same machine.

All the best,
Nonoise
chrshanl37

Like many other leaders they lead nothing....this crisis is a proof for all to see....Macron in France does not postpone some   secondary election days ago....
Lucian Truskott the communist?
No a Canadian surely.... :)

A commie from the north....
I read there is anecdotal data that blood type affects susceptibility to COVID-19. O is the most resistant. Since I am O I will go lick some shopping cart handles. 😀
US has some great hospitals . Here in Minnesota an elder , like me, has the best  medical deal in the country .
But US docs are no better than the ones in most of the world nor are they worse . People are People .
I have been in hospitals in Germany, Poland and Japan and they are as
good as the one I go to here in St.Paul that is a Level 1 trauma , top 50 hospital .Anyone who thinks the Chinese are not 1st class scientists is a fool .
The Problem in USA is the same one that has allowed every Empire
in human history to fall . The people never entertained the thought
it could ever fall .

And yes , a country that cover an entire continent , stretches from the equator to the north pole , from Maine to Guam and has bases in a hundred lands is an Empire .

P.S . When I was in an Army Field Hospital  in Vietnam the nurses kept  you alive .  A nurse does the work of God .,

"And yes , a country that cover an entire continent , stretches from the equator to the north pole..."
Huh, I would fail on this quiz. Not even Russia.
Some people never entertained the thought, all empires fall it's the nature of the beast. It's how well the decline is managed before the fall that determines the longevity. 
Empires fall but some survive by the cultural legacy, Greek cities, Roman and Christian empire, for example gives us something that always live in us....Others, Mogol empire for example gives much less to nourish the soul....Chinese empire span 3 thousand years and is going on ….Cultural value is all, weapons means nothing except  by accident...
An honest mistake. Lucian Truskott, the America hater. Running five mikes can sometimes dissipate hate and anger. 🏃‍♂️  Don’t be a hater, be a lover. 💕
An honest mistake. Lucian Truskott, the America hater. Don’t be a hater, be a lover. Running can sometimes dissipate hate and anger. 🏃‍♂️
My mistake, frankly I dont know him... But his Trump analysis is spot on...By the way I dont hate anybody....Life is too short, but I hate the situation where some place us all....

I will go my 5 miles tomorrow thanks for the advice ….
Thanks Doc, American docs are limited by the cloud of  fear called  litigation. People by big pharma who could give lessons to the Mafia .
I was on German system for over a decade . Very rarely is a German
Physician sued .
























Most people cannot imagine what evil is big pharma....Some evil are unimaginable...Except for those who study it....
No it won't be used quickly here if at all. The FDA needs to test it run clinical trials and approve it. That's a long ways off if this stuff works which is still in doubt.
Even if approved the drug will only be used in certain limited “compassionate” cases. That was all covered in today’s briefing. Snooze, you lose. 
Mahgister types too fast again. How entertaining. Get head in gear and your a$$ will follow.
chrshanl37,

It is better. It is easier to scroll past it. Thank you. Content is still boring, though. There must be some other forum for that.
mahgister,

"Most people cannot imagine what evil is big pharma...."
Your imagination may change a bit when you need a medication of some sort.
I think you entertain yourself a lot Geoffkait….

I dont know but to mock a good Trump decision because of the compassionate use of a medical solution in the urgency for making your point about chloroquine say a lot about you....
glupson big pharma is not absolutely necessary in itself in his actual corporate design to produce medicament....We can produce medical product without big pharma in his actual form... we can think out of the box....why not?
The passage of time will show my posts to have been prescient and accurate. Some others, not so much.

Not at all directed at you mahgister, you are very welcome.

Got a call today, one patient I had Monday tested positive for the China virus. Now I get to keep a log of temp and symptoms for the next 2 weeks. Feeling fine now, except for the occasional urge to vomit. But then I scroll past jond and it goes away. 

Had to go out briefly, hardly any traffic even around rush hour. Whoever thinks this is still anything to joke about, or score political points, or anything but take absolutely seriously, well there's nothing anyone can say to anyone that low so why bother.

This just in!

Governor Newsom orders everyone stay at home. The state projects that 25.5 million people in California will be infected with the coronavirus over an eight-week period, Newsom said in a letter sent to President Trump on Wednesday requesting the deployment of the USNS Mercy Hospital Ship to the port of Los Angeles through Sept. 1.

Meanwhile stock futures plunge. 

I saw a timeline with qoutes from the past 7 weeks from our President regarding Coronavirus... at least we know we are in good hands 😂😂😂
mahgister,
"We can produce medical product without big pharma in his actual form... "
If "we" includes me, no we cannot. If you can, by all means do it. You may be surprised.
Oh, and do not be alarmed.  I’m pretty sure he mentioned at some point that he is handling the situation perfect
 Glipson by " we" I speak about a future better pharma system, dont be rude and please don’t pretend you don’t understand to score a point in a discussion... It is childish...I apologize if I am rude also.... :)
mahgister,

I am not being rude. I am simply admitting that I am not capable of making a medication. Without being rude, I am doubting you are capable of it, either, and understand what it encompasses. Nothing wrong with that, most of us are clueless about it. Before building the new pharmaceutical world, it may help to check how the final product is made.
Just to be clear.
We are discussing the coronavirus here yes?

Only two people I have heard call it China Virus so far.

And if you don’t get the distinction well.......