FYI; Hidiamond D7 Speaker Cables
If you have an interest I am selling my HiDiamond Speaker Cables. They are D7 with spades on both ends 2Meters long.
I have two sets as I used them in a Bi-Wire configuration.
Will sell separately or as a package deal. I will be re-listing them in a few days but can do a better deal now.
PM me. |
Hi Hifidal
Sounds very interesting. Now how do I get in touch with you.
Rob |
Berony I sent you a message. |
Just a quick update;
As I said in my previous post I have been playing with cables for far too many years and HiDiamond has change what I thought cables were all about. I have always thought that the best a cable could do was equalize my system but I was wrong.
My set up now is 95% HiDiamond and will be 100% within the next month. As I added HiDiamond and took off my super expensive reference cables, my system improved on every change. Previously when I would change cables, my system just changed without improving. I now have much improved dynamics, more clarity, deeper bottom end, more resolution across the whole frequency range but most importantly the emotional connection to the artist is now addictive. There is something special about what these cables. I will end this by saying, I am finally off the cable merry go round. I will give you 1 negative; they take serious break in time but once broken in they are the best cables I have heard in the last 35 years of cable changing. |
My experience echoes paz307 exactly. Well said. |
Absolutely, I will thirdly enhance paz307's/Joncourage's conclusions of the HiDiamond cabling and will also be off the merry-go-round of cables and rest with the HiDiamonds. I am roughly 92% cabled with HiDiamond and will soon be at 100%.
I will stress the emotional connection you feel with these cables while listening to music is unbelievably a dream. Even a blockbuster bluray draws you into the movie as you are the actor or actress. These are very, very, very special cables........... |
@all, I would like to third Paz307/Joncourage's comments, my system is at 92% and with a few more adjustments I will have all HiDiamond cabling. I will admit that these do need serious break-in, but at the end of the days, you will be amazed and you will be able to jump off that crazy merry-go-round as I have.
There is really something special about these cables from HiDiamond. Wether listening to a musical passage or watching a blockbuster movie, I am drawn into the music/movies with greatest emotions. Absolutely phenominal execution of sound. I can say that where I live, my friends/family come to my house for music and movies and it is just a pleasure to turn that power button on and share what HiDiamond has done........ |
lol. these take so long to post, I thought it didn't take...Oh well. Definitely made the point..... |
I have all HiDiamond XLR3 interconnects, Reference HD digital, and 4 HD4 power cords and about 6 of the HD3 power cords.
I use these power cables throughout my 2 channel and home theater equipment.
Best investment one can make in cabling. |
I completed my HiDiamond loom yesterday albeit the models I have aren't very top of the line like some of you (all the cables I order do have graphite in them). Started off with a few D3 powercords and now I have all HiDiamonds. The latest additions just started the break-in process, but from listening after a few hours, phase coherency is a beautiful thing. Music just sounds whole and one (if that makes any sense).
The cables still have a way to go, but so far I'm very much liking what these cables do to my system. My cabling experience isn't very vast, but since I started changing cables 8-9 months ago, last night listening session was the best in a very long time. |
My question is - if you have a 2 channel system with all HD cables say 2 ICs, 1 digital cable, 4 power cables and 1 set of speaker cables, maybe a pair of jumpers, what did that cost you overall? I did not take the time to look this up. I am wondering how much of an improvement that made versus having a better preamp, source or speakers.
Interested in know more about my question and where most of the improvement the cables offered in your system and why.
Thanks. |
Bigkidz, I feel that my system is the best I could afford for the type of sound and music I prefer.
Cables will be necessary regardless of if or when I may change components in the future.
Until the technology for completely wireless connections are perfected,the HiDiamond Cables are the way to go, regardless of the system. |
I must agree with Ozzy because after trying far too many crazy expensive cables; HiDiamond cables are the only cables to completely disappear in my system. I now have HiDiamond cables front to back in my system and for the first time in over 30 plus years of swapping cables I am completely satisfied with my cables. |
Hi,
I am looking for feedback on the changes experienced with upgrade from power 3 to the 4's. Not so much about the dollar to performance value, but the sonic gains.
Thanks, Steve |
I've got some hd3s on my preamp and monoblocks which I like quite a bit, but am wondering about the hd2 power cords? I have a custom, Bolder cable built power supply for my transport (modified squeezebox touch) I am considering one for.
I don't really want to spend hd3 money on that connection. |
Siddh, What I noticed between the 2 power cords is that the Powercord HD3 will bring out the dynamics like very few power cords can but with the HD4 there is also a much more calmer presentation which allows the music to go much deeper towards my inner enjoyment. |
What I noticed from the P3 to the P4 is that the soundstage is wider and deeper in the P4 and more delicately refined....Definitely bigger sounding.....
The P4's do everything my "SOLD" Synergistic Research Hologram A(SE),D(SE), Precision AC(SE), T3(SE), T2(SE) did in the soundstage department......but thats it......The Hidiamonds added everything else to the bowl....... |
Hi, and thanks for the feedback. Have you found the changes to be more than subtle? I find the P-3 to be a very fine cable. My experiences with cable lines typically sees improvements as price and weight goes up, but sometimes just a refinement. |
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@Joeyboynj, I had the Oppo 105 and didn't like the sound of the analogue from its DAC's so I traded it back for a 103. The midrange sounded way too thin and the high frequencies were too bright. I did let it break in for 200 hours + and just didn't execute what was not there for me.
The 103 has the same power supply and chip for video. I run from the 103 HDMI straight to my plasma then 2.1/5.1 analogues to my Emotiva UMC-200. The UMC-200 was clearly an absolutely better sounding piece and worked great for my system. The difference between the 105 to 103 was put towards the Emotiva(a no brainer move). I am waiting to upgrade to the Emotiva XMC-1 with the TACT calibration. Should be a great piece....Whenever they decide to release.
Ive heard lots on the 5400 and the mod should work really well. How come you don't have a 103 or 105? |
Hi guys,
I recently acquired the P3 and am using it on a Devialet, paired with Focal Electra 1028BE floorstanders. Just wondering how will the sound evolve with burn-in time?
Also, i'm currently using a pair of Clearday Double Shotgun pure silver core speaker cables on the Focals. I think these are great bang for buck but I'm tempted to also give the HiDiamond speaker cables a try, given how the P3 blew me away. Has anyone tried both these cables and if so, what sort of improvements can I expect with the HD speaker cables? |
Skywalker I can not say anything about the Clearday Cables but have the HiDiamond D7 Speaker Cables and run two pairs in a bi-amp to my B&W 802D speakers. After a long burn-in (even after on a cable cooker) the are one of the best speaker cables I have had in my system (Nordost, MIT, Synergistic etc). They quality of construction is impressive. The sound has a natural timbre and flows from a quite background.
As good as they are I am moving up so if you, or anyone else, has an interest PM. They have spades at both ends and are in new condition (6 months). |
Hi Skywalker,
Make sure you give P3 a full 300 hours of break-in time. P3 sounds good right out of the bag, but after fully broken in it's a different cable altogether (you can read this thread for various break-in experience).
For speaker cable, D5 is minimum you should get. This is where HD starts using graphite in them.
One thing to note is you wouldn't know the full effect of HD cables until you have a complete loom. I started off with one P3 and now I have 5 P3s, digital RCA reference, D5 IC, XLR2, D5 SC and awaiting another set of D5 IC for the subwoofer. With each addition, it is a cumulative effect in my system. For Devialet, do you also need a digital cable?
BTW, I have the same speaker as yours with Pass Labs amps.
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@Kzhtoo, you really need to try a P4 either on your source or Pre. What it will do to your overall sound is huge. The noisefloor lowers even more, your soundstage width/ depth expands, things you never heard before just come through. Really . You need at least one in a Hidiamond fleet...... |
@Kzhtoo: thanks for your input. On my Devialet, i'm currently streaming music via Wifi from the PC. By the way, are you also located in Singapore? If so, would love to listen to your HiDiamond loom with Focal and Passlabs. I could even bring my Devialet to compare if you are interested :)
@Hifial: Thanks for sharing your observation. Switching to the D7 is certainly a very tempting prospect. Let me see if I can grab a pair of HD speaker cables to listen to before checking with you on your pair.
By the way, my wife says she likes everything about my current setup except for the less prominent midrange. Hopefully that changes with time as the P3 runs in. |
Hi Bacardi,
I was hoping no one would say that. lol I'd really love to try P4, but the thing is one P4 is equivalent to 4 P3s. :( Besides, there're other things I'd like to add to my system at the moment (power regenerator, dj setup, symposium shelves, etc). If there's a deal on P4 though, I'm sure I'll be all over it. |
Hi Skywalker,
Unfortunately, I'm not in SG. I'm indeed interested in Devialet though. :) With Devialet, I can convert all my various HD cables to one P4 PC and one pair of D8 speaker cables. :D
I think you're in luck with what you are (or your wife is) looking for. One thing I remember noticing with P3 break-in is midrange clarity. It doesn't necessarily get prominent per se, but with lower noise floor and smoother/more coherent presentation, midrange appears to be prominent. :) I too am breaking in my 5th P3 on the Pass amp (currently at 120 hours).
BTW, do share your impression on Devialet, PM or in this thread (hope others don't mind). |
@kzhtoo: ah I believe u r on one of the local focal forums. Anyway, yes the real draw of the devialet was being able to do away with multiple cables and just have 1 power cable and speaker cable :)
As to the sound, with the release of the latest firmware on the Devialet, music just sounds so natural and its an absolute joy listening to any genre. I'm using jriver on a windows laptop to upsample cd quality to 24/96 and stream wirelessly to the Devialet. With the HD P3 in, this is the best I've heard my speakers. For the first time, I love everything about the sound and there is little or no aspect I want to be changed. Highs, mids n bass are all there, like the way it was recorded and meant to be heard. The HD-Devialet-Focal is a killer combo in my humble opinion :) |
Ozzy, are you saying that the P4 power cable is not as dynamic as the P3 power cable? Thanks in advanced. |
Yo2tup. No, the P4 adds to the already dynamic P3 presentation with calmness that is ever so pleasurable. |
Even though I own all HiDiamond interconnects and power cords, I have maintained my DIY speaker cables that are made out of pure 9999 silver 14 & 18 gauge soft annealed wire.
I would be very interested in opinions of the D8 speaker cables from those of you who have them.
For biwire, do you have 2 separate runs or are you using jumpers? |
Ozzy, I have the D7 and use two pairs instead of jumpers. I find that two pairs of cables vs bi-wire or just a single run with jumpers give a better sound top to bottom. I found this to be with other brands I have also had in my system.
IMHO if budget permits go with two pairs.
Out of all the HiDiamond cables I have had in my system I found the D7 to be one of the best speaker cables at its price point and competes with more costly cables.
As far as the P3 and the #2 XLR cables, I did not found them to be any better then others brands in their price points. Not bad just not better.
I have been planing on selling my two pairs of D7 but have not had a chance yet to list them as work keeps getting in the way. So if you have any interest PM.
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There is alot of info on Hidiamond powercables and Speaker cables, but not much on their interconnects. Maybe someone with experience with the IC should start a new thread on the IC's. |
Final HiDiamond P4;
I have been using HiDiamond cables for well over a year; slowly selling of my previous reference cables that cost double what the HiDiamond cables cost. I finally completed a full HiDiamond loom last month and put a P4 power cable on my DCS Debussy. I must say after making many cable mistakes in the past, HiDiamond has been a huge step forward. The P4 transformed my dac into what I had always hoped the Debussy could be. My speakers have completely vanished, the bottom end has a full extra octave, my midrange is more clear but less analytical and the top end resolution hangs in the air for what seems like minutes rather than a second. I may add a clock to the system next year and trust me when I say there will be another P4 on the clock. |
Totally agree with Paz307, I bought hi diamond P 4 last month, and now I owned 5 p4s. It is the most musical pc I've ever heard,it lift the sound up in the air ,put it a little behind the speaker ,calm and densely sound with all the detail,it goes really low with the correct speed. I think p4 is the best hi diamond product together with their xlr 3 interconnect. |
Just added my final HiDiamond Power 4 cable to my SR Powercell with the Voodoo adapter and the results are stunning. I was hoping for a nice 10% increase in sound quality but after taking out the SR power cord and replacing it with the P4; the results were a quantum leap forward. Soundstage is much more focused, bottom end is subwoofer like but more accurate and the midrange is cleaner but much more musical. There is also something about the resolution at the very top end that allows for a natural tone without any harshness; more real live detail. |
Paz307 , I agree with you once I replaced the SR power cord with the HiDiamond I remember it being a big upgrade.
But hold on to your senses and check book...
Once I removed my SR Powercell and replaced it with a couple of Audience Ar2p-TO units one on each dedicated circuit and a PS Audio P10 plugged into one of the Audience units on my front end sources, I couldn't believe how much better the sound quality became. If you shop wisely you can get all of these for the price of a Powercell. And no more little mini couplers to deal with. |
Paz307, Re your experience with the p4, if you were going to insert only one p4 into a system with the powercell, would you put it on the powercell or would you put it on one of the components? |
Owenlee, sorry for the delay, I were having a very good vacations in the beautiful state of Tennessee.
In my experience I have found that if you have a very detailed dac or source that the power cord can affect them the most. I believe that by adding the P4 to the Powercell made such a huge difference because I completed the HiDiamond chain or complete loom. You really do not realize how good the HIDiamond cables are until you try and take them out. I had tried several times to go back to my previous reference cables for a listen and it is a disaster every time. I have now sold all my previous so called reference cables and have no interest in playing the cable game anymore. I will need 1 more P4 when my master clock arrives and post on that experience but as cables go, this manufacturer is the best I have used in my system. |
Ozzy, off topic re HD power cords but have you tried plugged everything into that P10? |
Worldwide Wholesales would like to announce that HiDiamond Cables will be at the TAVES audio show in Toronto Canada from Nov 1 - 3 2013 in the Parklane room.
Cheers and see you there. |
Jazzonthehudson, No I haven't yet.
My JL Audio Subs are on a separate dedicated circuit and my Pass Labs are also on there own dedicated. These items are physically too far away to plug into the PS-10, which is also on its own dedicated circuit. At the front of each dedicated circuits is the Audience ARP2-TO. |
System change back to single ended made my 2 pairs of Diamond 3 XLRs available. Great cables. |
I just put my Hi Diamond 3 XLR cables (2 meter pair and 4 meter pair) up for sale on Audiogon. I changed system configuration away from balanced a number of months ago and these were just sitting with all the other cables that make up my current system. Cleaning up the "clutter" produced these gems. they have about 150 hrs/pair on them and are in great shape. |
Hey Harv, what system changes are causing you to relinquish your XLR ICs? G. |
Hey Guido!
I've always preferred running single-ended to my amps, but was having a bit of trouble doing that with the Statement 450's after I "over-adjusted" them at some point (OK,user-error - there, I said it). Anyway, balanced would run fine but single-ended was giving me problems. My preamp will run either balanced or single ended outputs, but not both at the same time. Since I had to run balanced to the amps, I did likewise from the preamp to the sub, both times using the Hi DIamond XLR cables.
As you know, I recently had some work done on my amps and when I got them back after about a 3 month vacation (yes, they looked well-rested), single -ended is working fine again. Since I prefer running single-ended, the Hi DIamond 3 XLRs have become available for sale as I no longer have a use for them. I am still happily using Hi Diamond p-4 power cables throughout my system.
It was great running into you again at RMAF! Keep in touch. |
Hi Harv, indeed catching up with you in front of the VAC room at RMAF was wonderful.... This year I was specifically scoping reference-grade wire products... Heard 3 stunning looms by as many noteworthy brands... Sadly, HiDiamond was MIA... Mayhap better luck next year?
G. |
Hey Guido-
The various Hi Diamond dealers pick and choose where they exhibit. I deal with the distributor in Canada and I couldn't really see him making this trip, although many others from other gear have come much further for the chance to exhibit at RMAF..
Heard those ALtairs yesterday - call when you get a chance for the scoop. |
Hi Guys,
Unfortunately RMAF is just too close (time wise) to the Toronto Canada show which we attend each year in the Parlane room. Toronto is 45 minutes away from our location and RMAF is approximately 5000 miles away. When we show at an event we like to take a couple of our lines to the show so it is not just a matter of jumping on a plane. Next year we will be contacting manufacturers that carry electronic and speaker lines to see if they would like to combine their lines with HiDiamond Cables at RMAF. Truthfully we are very careful to not disrupt service to our clients so we try to keep shows to a minimum.
Cheers, |
Anyone know who sources the carbon-fiber plugs on HiDiamond's upper end gear (specifically the P4)? |
