How old is too old?


I'm not having any issues at the moment, but I'm thinking I will have to buy 1 more sacd player before I check out. I almost always buy used. So my question how old is too old? I see some interesting things that I would love to have, but many are 10 to 20+ years old. Thoughts?

secretguy

Any Model that is looked at can very easily be looked into for the overhauls that are able to be done to keep the Model in fine fettle.

If one is very lucky a Model selected can have a range of info extending to Videotorials showing exactly what is required to add Parts that are modern and are able to be exchanged with Olden Era Parts selected by the Manufacturer.

Alternatively the Models shortlisted can be selected only because of the Info that is available to keep them in good order.

https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/troubleshooting-cd-players.440522/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ6OJq8hEWg

The largest issue is parts availability. as the drives and optical sensors age they will die and need replacement. If parts are available no issue. but as many have learned parts are not really that available for disk drives, especially older ones. Good friend has owned a vintage audio shop for 35 years he wont even take them in on trade anymore, he's got a mountain of top quality cd players unusable due to drives.

Google tells me only these companies are making drives still and as you can see on the list most of them are computer drives. LG, ASUS, Pioneer, TEAC, and Sony. There is literally a handful of companies still making CD drives and all the others buy from them. So regardless of what CD/SACD player you buy its probably got he same drive in it. 

Teac/Tascam/Esoteric  maybe your safest bet, they still make their own drives and they make some of the best avail. Noting they are all the same company. 

+1 jl35.  any time someone asks for advice on a cd player you can count on ghd to offer nothing but his love of streaming....

I left the world of transports and cd's when my wonderful Mark Levinson No.37 (Phillips Pro mechanism) died. Spending big money on components with such finite lifespans not for me, purchasing used makes even less sense.

I suppose if it’s not very expensive you won’t be out much if it craps out on you, and I guess you could get lucky and get years out of it.  But I would definitely not buy an expensive player that’s 10+ years old.  That’s just stupid IMHO. 

if the price is right and it has good resale, take a chance...some older stuff seems to work well forever and some not, really no way to know...streaming is great, but once again ignore ghd (who seems to want nobody to play CD or LP)as playing discs can be fun and sound great...

I was of the same mind (hanging it up at 75) but my family has pretty good genes provided they didn't drink and smoke too much as they live well into their 90s. 

Before all the know it alls come out of the woodwork decrying that your hearing is basically shot (a great example of conventional wisdom proved wrong) by that age, citing their last hearing exam I have this to say: learn to understand your hearing exam and find out if your doctor is up to snuff as well. 

I recently had my ears examined for issues with constant pressure in them, colds that settle in them, tinitus levels never experinced before (like white noise turned up) balance issues,etc. The first exam was for my hearing. There were dips in the 2K to 8K area which is expected at my age. It doesn't mean I can't hear in those regions at all. The same goes for over 14K. 

What poeple overlook is that the signals are emtted at the 30db range. That's the level of a soft whisper and at the beginning of being in a library. Levels have to be increased to around 50db for me to hear the ones that dip. That's at the convesational level and where a normal living room measures.

I listen at ranges from the low 60s to the mid 80s, well above that 50s level needed to hear what people mistakenly say us older gents can't hear and that we're imagining it. When I told the doctor who did my hearing exam and the ENT specialist I was an audiophile and swear I could hear notes clearly in those ranges they both had the same answer coupled with the same look like of how could I not know it: you just turn the volume up. 

The hearing exam tech said there are some very good hearing aids I could use but I deferred and he understood. He recommended them not for listening to music but to hear conversations better when in noisier settings that make it harder for me to make out what's being said. 

In the hearing exam my ability to understand spoken words (in that setting) was great. 100% in my left ear and 96% in my right. That's no small feat at my age of 71. They also did a bone conductive test (nothing in the ears) and it's amazing at how much one can clearly hear and understand so factoring in that helps in hearing music.

As for the results from the ENT specialsit, it turns out that even with one cuppa cofflee a day, the caffeine was just too much. Just 3 days after stopping with the coffee, almost everything went back to normal. Not as much as I would like but it's getting better each and every day. I've now learned to enjoy some good old black tea now and again and that seems to satisy my lust for the old ritual.  

Long story long, don't listen to the naysayers and (unless they're joking) get your hearing checked. You might end up being in the same boat as me and fully able to appreciate your system well into your golden years.

All the best,
Nonoise

Buy a streamer / DAC. And no moving parts. You can get the same or better quality and have access to millions of albums for $14/month. Enjoy your old age (I am)... exploring all the music you haven’t heard.

I'd say by 75 you might as well throw in the towel.

So my question how old is too old?

IMHO, I would not be buying anything that involves moving parts, that is 10 years old.  Not unless refurbishing the equipment is part of the plan.