I am sick of Adele


Why Why Why!!!!! Do people think she has a great voice.
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tom6897843 posts12-28-2015 11:14pm@ don_c55
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I'm a fan of Adele and to me, the most talented modern day artist.  Unfortunately all her recording sucks.   Live at Royal Albert Hall is probably the best, less compression.   

I hear Seth MacFarlane is the modern day Sinatra.   Bought his CD and not bad.



Thank you Geoff.  Pretty great.  I suspect Ella would appreciate the talent even if some/many disagree.  And of course the personality.  A great combination, and a rare combination.  And an admirable combination.
Terrible Diction, her  music is far to self absorbed, and she Honks. not my cup of tea.  She is no Ella by a long chalk. 



I'm fine with Adele. I'd rather hear her voice than Ke$ha or any of the other pop starlets who rely so heavily on autotune.

I would like for her to sing a happy more upbeat song once in awhile. I keep thinking her concerts are extremely morbid with women crying because of the subject matter of Adele's tunes.
Not that I know much about her but IMO people who CAN sing without a mike get a lot of grief .
Re:  Linda Ronstadt...

One of the best things she ever did....

Google Linda Ronstadt/Phoebe Snow duet and watch the YouTube clip.

I remember watching it live - made me a fan of both.

Watch the ending - they had a blast!
olgny, it seems you think Adele would be better suited to Norah Jones-type arrangements--or am I mis-reading?  I'd like to hear Adele with that sort of backing, might be good.
bdp24, I'm a big Rondstadt fan (but not of her popular pop/rock years).  I've always felt she suffered from wrong material and cookie-cutter arranging.  It never occurred to me to point the finger at her, but you may be on to something.  I love her more country/folksy material and her mariachi stuff.  She does a great duet with David Hidalgo (of Los Lobos) on some obscure album.
My gf has a rather bad habit of keying in on certain artists at certain times,  playing them consistently to the point where I grow tired if not altogether sick of them.  She was gifted Adele's new record,  on vinyl,  for Christmas and I've heard this record a LOT.  A LOT!

The only negative thing I can offer is that the production is bombastic,  anthemic, stadium-esque on virtually every cut.  I would definitely not mind hearing her in a more "acoustic" type setting,  with a small combo or something like that.

Then again,  I've said the same thing about Aretha Franklin for many years as well.  
Excellent, Marty. Remember when Costello trashed Rondstat, whose version of one of his songs he detested. She was revered at the time, but he found her to sing his lyrics as if they had no meaning. To me, there are "pretty" voices, those of singers who possess nice timbre, and there are "interpretive" singers, who attempt to communicate feelings or ideas with their voice---Blues singers, Johnny Cash, Dylan. Much as a pretty girl will often not have developed much in the way of inner qualities (her looks making that unnecessary), a singer like Rondstat can get by just on the sound of her voice, not what she does with it. Of course, a singer can possess both qualities, as do Iris Dement, Emmylou Harris, and Alison Krauss.
I like Adele. She has some wonderful songs. Beats the pants off so much of the top 40 these days. I wish the recordings and mixes were Audiophile quality though. They range front decent to good and a few sound really nice. I think the gems are certain live performances. Not the big giant concert halls but smaller venues. As far as her voice, everyone is unique. I don’t care if she hits every note perfect or not. I like to hear what she sings and she does it good. It’s like I don’t care if your system is technically flat, all that I care is how it actually sounds and if it’s pleasant to me. I'm more than willing to listen to someone with perfect singing if they can actually write as song I enjoy.

This is one of my favorite videos. Sounds fantastic and is just a phenomenal performance: https://youtu.be/DDWKuo3gXMQ?t=38s
The debate about who is the "better singer" brings to mind a relevant IMO story.

Take the example of a great technical vocalist: Barbra Streisand.  She had a great voice,  NO DOUBT,  but IMO she could also miss the point of a song like few others.  On her "Broadway" album (for one good example), she covers "Pretty Women" (in a mash-up with "Ladies Who Lunch", IIRC).  The first song (from Sweeney Todd) is a tale of deranged lust, sung beautifully in the Sweeney Todd soundtrack by Len Cariou, who has no voice at all.  Whatever he lacked in native ability, Cariou offset by effectvely communicating the point of the song - he wants to kill these girls and make them into meat pies.  Barbra sings the song as a light romp in the park.  The Streisand performance was so bizarre that I was left wondering for years whether it was tounge in cheek.

Many years later, I got a chance to put that question to one the many co-producers of that record (who shall remain nameless for reasons about to be clear) who turned up at a local party.  When I asked him about it,  he just trashed her inability to interpret songs or take any advice on the subject.

Diva seems to be the right word. That may alienate and color the opinions of the people she works with, but IMO she's a great vocal technician but a frequently bad singer  I understand that justifying that statement based on that story is just using one person's opinion of one session, but he's a well respected pro and his comments certainly square with my observations.

Notwithstanding her superior technical skills, I'd prefer to listen to Adele (and dozens of other less precise vocalists) than to Barbra.  There's more to singing than range, tone, and pitch precision, so it's always gonna be "different strokes", not right/wrong.  It's just the nature of singing.

Thanks "taters" for your opinion (again). Opinions are like...well you know, and everybody has one!
Billy-

Adele sings w/ a very powerful voice!  She my be the best in the biz at  the moment.  Happy Listening!
After listening to big chunks of three of her tunes I can say I find the voice to be good, but it and/or the material would have to be different ("better," IMO) to make me get out the credit card.  I'm a little surprised there's such a big stink about her in particular.  I just don't hear a really characteristic voice that makes me say, "wow, I'd know that voice anywhere and the sound of it knocks me out."  I find some of her effects to be contrived but that's true of many good singers.  But, again, I don't blame her for the hype.
I'd prefer to listen to Adele than Barbra Streisand, the diva from yesteryear.
I was in a house yesterday while her CD was playing , hard to say what she is with those monster drum  machines incessant din .
Im sorry but after one listen to her song "Hello" she is a terrible singer. One out of every 5 to 8 notes she misses. Anyone with a good ear can hear it. It makes my head explode.
While I am not necessarily a fan of her music credit must be given to her simply for being a person,  not a "brand."  Who else,  in the "pop" world anyway,  waits three years to put out a record nowadays?
She may not fall into the realm of "artiste" for many here and elsewhere, but she has talent,  writes her own stuff,  and has a loyal fan base that came running back.  As per what tostadosunidos said earlier,  the hype surrounding her shouldn't be confused with her talent.  Just check out the other best-selling albums right now on Tidal,  iTunes,  or Amazon and see what lesser fare is selling.

I actually listened to both sides of her record on Christmas Day because it was gifted to my girlfriend by her daughter.  Yes,  on vinyl.  I've heard far worse than this record.  Everybody dug the vinyl,  too.

Good gosh...the woman has talent and guts.  I applaud her even though she ain't earning no royalties offa me!
Right you are  don c55,  Luciano Pavarotti  could have been a great singer
 if he wasn't so damn obese !
@ don_c55
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I remember getting fed up with all the hype about the Beatles, whose music I loved.  It's not necessarily about the artist, it's the circus that surrounds them.
I have heard some of her songs on the radio and in the Bond movie. My wife and I enjoy her very much. Never heard her LP.
I guess to you she is like Eagles are to me can't listen to them
That last post was meant for the pop up. It's annoying to do anything on audiogon with the mobile app. Progress, what progress??

Cheers and happy Holidays. 
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I thought that she was black before I saw a photo of her. Her voice is recognise able but grating on my ears. She can probably actually "sing" better than she does but not with the inflection that makes her voice as immediately recognize able as it is. Robert earl keen is another example. He sounds like Dale from "King of the Hill". I saw him in concert with Lyle Lovett and he sang a couple of songs solo in his "real" singing voice, not the nasely voice for which he is known and recognized. It was much better and musical but you wouldn't ever know that it was him....
Jewel is another "artist" that actually has a good (and unrecognizeable) voice when she isn't doing her impersonation of a singing goat. I FN hate that whiney goat voice crap soooo much!!!! It totally blows my mind that anyone can listen to it, much less actually like it. People are stupid and the Matrix has us all is what I believe. 


Obviously that is her niche. Just like Taylor Swift writes a lot of her songs about ex-boyfriends. This is what the Jewish people call a schtik

She's good, but she's got the same context that she's dragging on for like 3 years now. 
We get it Adele, you're heartbroken and all but like, come on, I'm dying for something new, not you wallowing over your past love for nearly a decade,writing songs off your misfortune while you have a partner and a baby now. 
I loved the 19 Album. 
21 was good.
But 25 is just like, Idk, Im tired of listening to her talk on and on and on about the same things. 
BTW the 21 album is good and has great moments.  The band and mix is so apart from the usual pop crap it's a wonder that the pointy heads in the music industry let it happen.  The anti-gaga music.
There was a TV special, Live from England, that I saw recently. She had an interviewer and she'd walk over to do a song with the band, then back to the chair to chat some more. I was struck with what a real person she is, not some ego maniac who sees herself as above all the little people. And her voice kills, my only critique is the high content of depressing subject matter in her songs. Hopefully with the addition of a child her songs will be happier.
She kills it with Jimmy Fallon!!
http://recode.net/2015/11/25/adele-sells-more-music-than-anyone-ever-and-gives-it-away-too/
There is no stopping Adele now

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/2-3m-copies-sold-three-014001973.html?ltr=1

She just shattered the most albums sold in a week. I still have to pick up the LP but got the Target exclusive CD.
^Would it be better having roll models becoming celebrities, rather than having celebrities becoiming roll models?
Adele is presented as the anti-Amy Winehouse in a sense.

Amy Winehouse had the talent but her demons got the best of here. Adele has the talent as well but appears to be in control of her life and career and is attractive but does not fit the modern standard Barbie Doll model for female role models. There is a positive message in there that helps boost her profile and appeal. Good for her! I hope she continues on to be a good role model for other talented women. The world needs more high profile talented women who are role models. If not just to make up for the ground lost to the Kardasians already.
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Akg-I avoided writing your last clause multiple times and am pleased you did not edit yourself as I did!
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