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Lively, fast & open sounding integrated under 3k?
My speakers are 89db 2 way monitors with a very warm sound. Minimum impedance 3.5 ohm
large Room, low level listening
My goals
no.1
excellent immediacy, speed & timing (dont recommend naim, very unnatural forced sound)
no2
forward soundstage (begins at the listening position and extends beyond the speakers)
No3.
Body without warmth
no4.
small in size if possible, but no class D, doubles into 4 ohms, Good at low volumes
new or used.
possible candidates from reading reviews
crayon cia-1
teac ai-2000
krell s300i
sugden a21se
large Room, low level listening
My goals
no.1
excellent immediacy, speed & timing (dont recommend naim, very unnatural forced sound)
no2
forward soundstage (begins at the listening position and extends beyond the speakers)
No3.
Body without warmth
no4.
small in size if possible, but no class D, doubles into 4 ohms, Good at low volumes
new or used.
possible candidates from reading reviews
crayon cia-1
teac ai-2000
krell s300i
sugden a21se
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I would look at the Musical Fidelity M6si. Doesn't quite double into 4 ohms but it is comfortable driving speakers with lower impedance. Lively sound that will be forward without being bright. It is a dual mono design though it doesn't have two power supplies. Made in Taiwan which is why it is relatively inexpensive. In that price range it would be my first choice. A buddy of mine has the Krell and is pretty happy with it. It replaced a Nord. He loves it and it should deliver on what you are looking for. I haven't heard the other three and have no POV. I am an MF dealer. PM me if you are interested. |
zuio OP The Triangle signature Theta’s can go down to 4ohms, and to me sounded like they needed to be livened up A used John Curl designed Parasound Halo Hint integrated, you should be able to pickup for $3k or less, it’ll drive almost anything even has a ESS Sabre dac in it as well as a phono stage if you need it. https://parasound.com/hint.php $2.5K https://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasound-Halo-Integrated-Amplifier/324200768315?hash=item4b7bdf233b:g:RjkAAOSwTO9eSf3s $1.4K!!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasound-Halo-Integrated/124201839309?hash=item1ceb01aacd:g:hBgAAOSwSiVezmXD Cheers George |
I was going to recommend the Kinki Studio M-1 but it's not small and weighs in at around 50 lbs. It does all the things you mentioned with aplomb and one eye closed and one hand tied behind it's back. From what I've read from a reviewer who's owned the Crayon and the Kinki, and who thinks they have that same Swiss sound, check out the Crayon. All the best, Nonoise |
Not from what I’ve heard, that may apply to the Halo JC1’s etc, switched into high Class-A bias mode, but the standard a/b lower bias mode is definitely a cooler more etched sound. I have owned the JC1 monoblocks as well as the A21 stereo amps. Yes, when JC1 is switched into high bias mode, it becomes very warm. However, the standard low-bias sound of the JC1, A21 as well as the A23 and Halo Integrated are all still slightly on the warm side of neutral. It is not at all like Hegel, Music fidelity, Yamaha (and probably Kinki). |
@auxinput, I was on the fence about that and even a professional reviewer here ( I believe it was Doug Schrodeer) recommended I do it but after I got my Audioquest Niagara 1200, everything improved to the point where I now find it unnecessary to change anything. The sound is fuller, has more body, the highs lost some of that tizzy edge and the base goes way down and is tighter and more defined. Oh well and all the best, Nonoise |
Yes, when JC1 is switched into high bias mode, it becomes very warm.Not to me they become invisible like the speakers have left the room, and the music just washes over you in a 3D sound stage, that you swear you can get up and walk into. And I've built many, some very big ones over the last 30 years, even a self contained 120w-8ohm pure class-A water cooled one that could double down to 2ohm, that was two man lift, the size of a coffee table. |
zuio OP +1 They MF sound, are even more cooler, etched, than the JC1’s in low bias mode. Never like them, definitely a MF house sound (very high gain used?), even their old little A1, A100 so called "Class-A’s" had the same sound, which btw were lucky to be measured to be even 10w of Class-A https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zPkAAOSwvbZeiOjN/s-l1600.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/736x/12/08/0a/12080aff826bd67d14bac6c74bd9b4b4.jpg Cheers George |
Not to me they become invisible like the speakers have left the room, and the music just washes over you in a 3D sound stage, that you swear you can get up and walk into. It must be a personal taste thing. While I can appreciate the Parasound stuff and the Halo have an incredibly clean midrange, they just do not have the high frequency extension that other amps do. |
Parasound stuff and the Halo have an incredibly clean midrange, they just do not have the high frequency extension that other amps do.I think you may not like the sound of Class-A as that’s what the highs would be running as with the bias they have on them. As they sure are not rolled off as far as frequency bandwidth goes. Parasound: About the same StereophileCheers George |
Sorry, but all amps pretty much have specs like this. It comes down to listening. It may seem to you that the high frequencies are not rolled off, but if you put the A21 side by side with something like a Krell Evolution amp, it becomes very apparent that the Parasound is lacking in high frequency detail. |
As I’ve said I’ve heard the Parasound, and they do not lack in HF to me. Maybe you listened to a dud one. As these are comments made on the highs, from reviews. The sound was anything but mellow with the Spendors’ tweeters firing at ear level, but joined the Spendor’s crispness to the Hint 6’s wholeness and refinement. It almost felt as if I were leaning into the Trondheim Soloists’ performance of Tchaikovsky’s Serenade for Strings in C. Parasound never pushed the Quads’ ribbons into dangerous territory. Instead, music sounded brilliant and tangible, with a pulsating energy that made the strings of the Trondheim Soloists absolutely breathtaking. The sound was exhilarating. The Quads revealed the upper air of the Fitzgerald LP, with horns, hi-hat Parasound was no exception. This combo was magical. The leading edges of voices, tenor saxophones, and drums reached out to caress my ears. A joyous sense of upper-treble air made all music exhilarating, transparent There was something else wrong when you hear it. Cheers George |
I don't pay attention to reviews much anymore because they really don't tell you anything. I have owned three different JC1 amps, one of them was brand new (and burned in 500 hours). The A21 was also brand new. I have owned a variety of different amps and have compared these Parasound side-by-side with other amps. |