Preamp match for my First Watt F-7 amp.


Currently running the amp with my Quicksilver line stage preamplifier, I almost have to max out the volume to get decent sound.Any suggestions at around 1000k thx

pedropacas

numerous preamps/linestages should work

nelson pass' fw amps have somewhat low gain/input sensitivity for modern solid state power amps, so make sure the model you choose has plenty of gain and low output impedance

There is a Supratek Syrah on US Audiomart that would do the trick if you can convince him to ship or make arrangements to pick it up.  Has gain of 26db at max setting.

 

 

Any suggestions at around 1000k...

You should be able to find something decent with that budget.

When you say "decent sound", do you mean adequate volume level, or do you mean that the sound is otherwise unsatisfactory until you hit a high volume level?  What I am asking is if sufficient gain is your only concern.

If what you seek is more gain, this seems a bit odd because Quicksilver linestages have something like 18 db of gain, which is quite a lot.  I cannot think of any situation where that much gain would be exhausted before one hits a level that would cause any amp to clip  But, if your source is a phono setup that doesn't have enough gain, that is a possibility. In that case, you should be looking for a phono preamp, not a linestage with more gain.

I cannot think of any situation where that much gain would be exhausted before one hits a level that would cause any amp to clip 

I was thinking the same thing. Is the preamp getting enough voltage? 

I have an F5 and a J2. So I’m in the low gain club also.  I run an Aric Audio Motherlode II in my main system,and his Unlimited gets in the rotation downstairs. His preamps have adjustable gain,which really works out great with low gain amps,and high gain amps.  The Supratek that’s been mentioned earlier will also suit your needs.  

I feed a FirstWatt F8 from a Van Alstine Transcendence RB 10 preamp. I rarely have the volume control past 10 o'clock. The sound out of Focal Aria 906's, rated 89.5 dB sensitivity, is terrific.

 

 

I am on a preamp testing binge right now so my first question to you would be what kind of sound are you going for? My second question would be how handy are you and do you think you would want to build your own preamp? There is an active DIY community building various Nelson Pass/First Watt designs over at diyaudio.com. I have built Waynes Burning Amp 2018 Linestage (BA2018) as well as the Korg Nutube B1. The BA2018 has a very transparent, detailed, clear solid state kind of sound. Building it would require more effort since it doesn’t come as a kit. But the Korg Nutube B1 is available as a complete kit for $299 at diyaudiostore.com. As built the Korg B1 is quite good but if you follow the advice of various posters on the thread devoted to that build by upgrading to top notch film capacitors and beefing up the power capacitors you can have a truly excellent preamp for less than $500. The Korg is more of a tubey, warm, holographic soundstage kind of preamp. It is a very easy build and the results are excellent. Both the BA2018 and the Korg Nutube B1 provide about 16 dB of gain.

Of course if you are looking for a more flexible preamp that supports multiple inputs with balanced as well as XLR ins and outs and a remote you would be hard pressed to do better than the Schiit Freya +. Sound quality is good but not quite top notch and it is right around your $1000 price point. It offers 12 dB of gain in tube mode.

Hi,

what is the sensitivity and impedance of your speakers?  At 20w@8ohm/30w@4ohm the F7 will be a problem with low sensitivity speakers, or perhaps speakers with 16ohm impedance. 

The ones I had with my F7 were the Manley Shrimp (tube pre with low output impedance), Wyred4Sound STP-SE stage 2 (mostly no gain), and DIY Pass B1 (no gain). I wish I’d had the eastern electric minimax or LTA MZ2 I have now, I think those would have been my favorites, with the wyred and shrimp coming next (but it’s all system-dependent! I have Devore Nines speakers, at 91db FYI).

thanks for your suggestions My speakers  areTriangle Bro-3 ,90db 8 ohms my sources are David Hafler tuner,Nakamichi cassette deck and a Audiolab 6000n streamer

With 90db speakers the 18db gain from the Quicksilver line stage should be more than enough to drive the First Watt amp as loud as you can stand.  I suggest you check your connections especially the output level on the Audiolab streamer.