I have dedicated audio room 14.5x20.5x9 ft. Currently have Marantz Reference CD/Intergrated paired to Magnepan 1.7's with REL T-7 subs. For the vast majority of music I love this system. The only nit pick is that it is lacking/limited in covering say below 35 hz or so. For the first time actually buzzed the panel with an organ sacd. Bummer. Thought of upgrading subs to rythmicks but then I will need to high pass the 1.7's. Really don't want to deal with that approach.
Enter the Double Impacts. Many interesting things here. Would certainly have a different set of strengths here. Dynamics, claimed bottom octave coverage in one package, suspect a good match to current electronics.
I've read all the threads here so we do not need to rehash that. Just wondering if others out there have FIRST HAND experience with these or other Tekton speakers
I think you’ll have the makings of a very nice system with the Coincident, LTA, Border Patrol and Perfect SET’s. All great products!
I have and love the Border Patrol DAC with an Aric Audio 300B SET with the Tekton SE’s and I love the music it makes. The Perfect SET’s intrigue me as an easier to drive speaker alternative. Obviously teajay will better answer your question but I wanted to commend you on your choices.
teajay, Like estuardo4 I thought better ask this question here as well...
Another Coincident Dynamo SE question: my current main system is DeVore Orangutan 0/96 with Leben CS600. It is my intention to pair a Coincident Dynamo SE (also own LTA MZ2) with the PERFECT speakers, Border Patrol DAC in a 14x17x9 room as second system. Do you think this system, PERFECT, will compare favorably with the DeVore's? Best, mikirob
Hi estuardo4, just an idea. If I was in your position and out of the U.S., I think I would volunteer to pay extra and have the PS speakers boxed in a DI or similar larger box with a lot of extra packing material, or better yet, to see if the regular PS shipping box can be double boxed in another of larger size like a DI, Encore, ULF box. Again, just an idea.
Yes, the Perfect Set would be a great match with your amplifier. Eric's new speaker is quite terrific. I'm sure you would be very pleased with it in your system.
Hello, I’ve been a lurker for most of the last past year over this discussion. I was really interested on buying the DI but unfortunately they are so far out of my reach. But now that Eric designed the Perfect SET, I’m almost set on them (pun intended). I live outside the US, so I cannot test them at home, but I trust a brand and an equipment when several knowledgeable fellow music lovers raves about them.
I was reading with great interest the thread by Teejay about their initial thoughts about the Perfect SET, but the discussion was removed by the moderators. It seems that there’s a couple of individuals that have an agenda against Eric and Tekton. So far, I’ve counted about ten discussions about Tekton speakers that have been removed over the last few weeks because of them.
Obviously, if I was Teejay, I wouldn’t rewrite another thread, but what I would like to know is if he’s willing to write about his findings on this thread, that is out of reach of those "gentlemen".
I know that as a rule, I shouldn’t ask for someone to hijack a thread, but it seems that this is the only safe place to hear about the opinions from other owners, as I’m willing to bet that the moderators won’t delete a 107 page discussion.
What I specifically want to know is if a cheap and cheerful 6.8 Watt Chinese SEP amp would do this speakers any justice.
Thank you @david_ten . I've communicated with Clement Perry in the past regarding his opinion on the Encores. I'll reach out to him about the audition. Thanks again!
@radiohead99 Depends on which models you are considering. If you don't get any direct responses from owners in your area, (and you are looking at the DIs or above) reach out to Clement Perry of Stereotimes via email. He may be able to help. He knows a few Tekton owners in the NJ/NYC area.
I'm on a speaker hunt and would love to give Tekton a chance before finalizing on a pair. I live in Manhattan. Any kind Tekton owners in NYC/Long Island/NJ area would let me hear them in person? I would show my appreciation with a bottle of red wine ;)
@delta77, I have the Double Impact SE with Rosso Folgore semi-gloss. You’re going to love them. I no longer have my ZMA and CSP3 but I imagine they will sound great. My setup is on my systems page (Lance’s HT/2 Channel)
the rest of my system as of now , Denon - DP59L (TT) Decware - ZP3 (phono) Apple TV4 (streaming) Oppo 205 - (DAC / CDP) Decware - ZROCK (bass boost) ## on order ## Decware - CSP3 (preamp) Decware - ZMA (tube amp) -- Odyssey - (SSamp) Tekton - Double Impact SE ## on order ## Tekton - Seas Pendragon's & Cenima sub CullenCable - military spec. Silver coated Copper "LOOM"
It fells good to be part of this group.. Thanks BURT...
Not aware of any other factory upgrades you ought to opt for. You are in for a treat---I'm sure your new Di's will deliver the goods!
The only other thought might be what footers you opt for. Many different options here.
I remember how hard it was to order up a $3300 speaker I had never heard. In retrospect, this was the biggest no-brainer purchase I have ever made. Please let us know if you feel you didn't get your monies worth! (or, more likely, how much you are enjoying your new speakers)
Listening to my Seas Pendragon’s this morning.. With a sound stage this great, I’m wondering how the DI’s can sound any better ..?
I have on order a set of DI’s with the $300 upgrade, $75 grills, and $ ? matching Plynths , oh yeah and the extra $1,000 paint job.. roughly $4,600.. It was definitely hard to swallow the $ for the mirror paint ( Rosso Folgore ) , but they will be beautiful..
Are there any other upgrades I might want to consider, (that aren’t listed on the website) , that some of you guys wish you would have done to your DI’s..? Thanks for insights, BURT..
I have had my upgraded DIs since mid May 2018. Grilles arrived a bit later < 2wks. Amplifiers connected to these speakers, PL Dialogue Premium. Tubes from EL34 to KT150 Dennis Had Inspire HO Single ended Pentode. Tubes from 6L6 to KT150 Transcendent SOB OTL. Need an auto former for proper damping at 4 ohm with this guy. (Currently streaming Tidal via Bluesound 2I and Benchmark DAC3 as I write this.) Bob Latino M-125 monos. Tubes 6550, Black Treasure KT88 KT120. Elekit TU-8600 300B. PL Prologue 4 Tubes KT77 and EL34.
I have another collection of various box and tower speakers that I am constantly auditioning on these amps. For some reason the DIs always wind up reconnected. Glad I purchased the Herbies for them! Eric and Karma were a pleasure to deal with. 100% satisfied customer.
David, I doubt you are flailing, but the choice is tough. You have a great primary system with very few shortcomings. That is a real luxury that affords you the opportunity to focus on something very special in your 2A3 based system. I mentioned the give and take we are all faced with. So given the strengths of your primary system, it would be very easy for me to give up bass extension for example if I could make gains in immediacy, transparency, and as you said an emotional connection with the music. Your gravitation towards a single full range driver IMO makes good sense. I once put together a Fostex fe167e full ranger in a 0.5cf BR enclosure and was shocked how nice it sounded. Paid special attention to frame damping and it produced a surprisingly smooth sound with no "shout". Nice, full, balanced sound with a fantastic sound stage. Very natural. Now some will go on about the limitations and compromises of full rangers. But that's exactly the point. Making the right compromises that will let your new amp shine. And when you need to listen to full scale works you know what to do!
So, as much as I would love to hear your take on the Tekton Perfects, and I'm sure they would be a great choice, it is also good to consider other options that will allow your 2A3 to do what it does best.
I was just wondering where you were at in your speaker search. So, what are your priorities in the sound you are after and what are you willing to give up? (there’s always a compromise, right?)
@corelli Great questions.
I’ve been ’wandering’ in the search. Lately, it has felt more like ’flailing’ : )
Top choices are the Cube Audio Nenuphar, Voxativ, and Horning Eufrodite Ellipse (and a few others).
The primary goal is for a synergistic pairing with Scott Sheaffer’s Found Music 2A3 amp. I now have the Grandinote Genesi solid state Preamp ahead of it and I am moving towards a full analog signal cable loom from Scott Sheaffer (his silver 2112 ICs and E+ SC).
At this point, with the T+A PA 3100 HV / SR cabling based system and the system described above, sound quality is superlative.
Therefore "priorities in sound" are mainly focused on increasing naturalness, realism, and my emotional connection.
I expect gains to be slight, but am hopeful for a shift in Gestalt and a ’higher level’ whole, when all the elements come together.
The other top priority is to learn about and experience different speaker design and approaches.
Hey David, I was just wondering where you were at in your speaker search.
So, what are your priorities in the sound you are after and what are you willing to give up? (there's always a compromise, right?) It seems Eric can work some magic with less than sophisticated drivers. (Not that measurements tell the whole story, but have you ever seen a flatter FR curve than that of DI monitor is Stereophile??) I am not of the opinion that top drawer drivers guarantee much. You can have a great filet mignon in the fridge but it only becomes special in the kitchen. I mentioned once that a speaker I built using then top of the line drivers (scanspeak revelator/aircirc tweeters) was only good. I actually derived more enjoyment out of some vifa drivers using a series crossover. The Vifa build has some magic in that simple crossover and the end result was quite beguiling.
So I would of course get Erics input on the virtues of the drivers he has worked with. I would also wonder on putting more money into the crossover and cabinet damping as well. The crossover could be a more cost effective avenue to look at, especially given the fact it's part count has to be lower than that of the DI's that Bill took on.
David_ten Are you going to purchase the Perfect from Tekton? I'd like to know your results if you do purchase. I'm seriously thinking about testing them out myself. I currently use DeVore 0/96 in main system, that is what Perfect will be up against. I'm sort of waiting for teajay upcoming review. How to compare/contrast with his review of NSMT. As you might know I’ve owned three pairs of Tekton's older speakers, Lore, Mini Lore, and an early small single driver. All performed great. Best, mikirob
Shout out for advice. Eric is able to custom spec the drivers for the Perfect SET. They come stock with the tweeter array drivers and 12 inch woofer from the Ulfberths.
Any suggestions or recommendations from those of you who "know their drivers"? The BE tweeters are an option, but I’d rather go with something else. Thanks.
It would be nice if long threads had a better way to search topics within them. 1,623 posts ago (just kiddin) this was touched upon. I run a pair of Hsu ULS-15 MK2 DualDrive (2 ULS-15 MK2) subs. My DI's, in my room, were reaching down to the lower 30hz range. I wanted things flat down to just below 20hz and the Hsu's accomplished that very nicely. I have had no integration issues. The sound is tight and effortless. For me they hit the nail squarely on the head and they are an extremely high value item--just like the DI's!
Keeping up, at least with my audio related New Year resolutions.....
A reminder for doing the following (which most of you are):
Tightened the driver units on my SEs. There was no play in the tweeter array, very minor play in the two accompanying mid-range drivers, AND definite play in the bass woofer screws.
Also applied Caig DeoxIT to the Cardas Binding Posts and Speaker Cable terminations.
I'm thinking about adding a subwoofer to my set up. Currently driving the DIs from a McIntosh MA275 which has a discrete sub output. It's set up in a fairly large room. Used for listening to records and CDs only, so not a multi-channel rig.
Have any of you added a sub to your DIs? Any recommendations on the various Tekton subs? Love the way the DIs sound but I I could do with more bottom at lower volume.
No, his patented design is unique and has nothing to do with Roger Russell's work or any past line array designs. That's way he waited until his patent was accepted before he started to build the DI's and the generation of speakers based on his break through design.
I can't speak with certainty on this--you would have to ask Eric. My guess is that his design has little to do with prior design work using multiple tweeter arrays. Eric's work is unique--and very special indeed. He thinks outside the box, he is driven to design--not to copy prior efforts. Just check out the vast array and variety of speakers he offers. Hardly someone content with last years work.
I agree with David Ten, the Encores and Ulfberts with their 15 tweeter array bring the performance Billy found in the DIs to another level entirely, crossing over to the array at 300 Hz puts most midrange information in the tweeter path creating that panel/stat transparency, better woofers deliver a more impactive detailed bass region, and the dynamics are horn-like, for me the Encores are the sweet spot in the Tekton lineup, that is until Eric debuts something new I'm not even aware of. It was fun listening to Billy describe his systems.
Thanks for the link David. It's remarkable how with such consistency people describe the attributes of the DI's. Everything comment made by Billy resonates with all of us who have enjoyed these speakers so much. He was a fun guy to listen to. Just had to smile.
Order the special grill cloth from AcousTex offered by Tekton ($100). They are very superior and transmit 97% of the sound. Many people don't put grills on, but I had to for aesthetic reasons and keeping the cones safe from little kids. I called them direct and got a few samples. I'll be ordering a second set in "Mushroom" just to change up the black ones I got originally. Be careful installing and removing as the little push-in ball points break off easy. I actually like the sound better with the grills on (just my opinion of course)
I ordered my Impacts with grills.They are shipped separately.When they hadn't arrived a week after the speakers arrived,an inquiry from me got an apology and the grills arrived in two days.
I think it would be most useful to Tim if persons who have ordered speakers with grills lately can let him know if they are being delivered with the speakers, and if not the wait time nowadays to receive them.
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