The problem with the music


There are lots of people who frequent this site that have spent significant amounts of money to buy the gear that they use to reproduce their music. I would never suggest that you should not have done that, but I wonder if the music industry is not working against you, or at least, not with you.

For the most part studios are using expensive gear to record with, but is it really all that good? Do the people doing the recording have good systems that can reproduce soundstage, detail and all the other things that audiophiles desire, or do they even care about playback?

I know there are labels that are sympathetic to our obsessions, but does Sony/Columbia, Mercury, or RCA etc. give a rats #$%&@ about what we want?

Recordings (digital) have gotten a lot better since the garbage released in the mid 80's. Some of them are even listenable! BUT lots of people are spending lots of money to get great music when the studios don't seem that interested in doing good recordings. Mike Large, director of operations for Real Worl Studios said "The aim of the music is to connect with you on an emotional level; and I'd be prepared to bet that the system you have at home does that better than any of the systems we make records on."

Do recording engineers even care about relating the emotion of the music, or are they just concerned about the mechanics?

What do you think, and can/ should anything be done about it?
128x128nrchy
I am not a recording engineer so I am just going by what I have been told...but I thought that the root of the problem was the use of dozens of mics with mixdown happening months later in a studio perhaps in a different country. This is driven by the great cost of hiring an orchestra, and the need to keep sessions short. Going back to play it again because a mic was not perfectly positioned is a NO- NO. In this scheme it is the mixing engineer who really determines how the product sounds, as best he can with the tracks he has to work with. One recording of the Sant Saens Organ concerto was produced by recording the orchestra in one hall, and some time later the organist in another hall (wearing a headset). In this instance it worked quite well.

The Tacet and MDG discs that I recommend always give credits, along with the musicians, to the technical staff, (tonmeister) and usually list the equipment such as mics used. In the Apollo space program one important thing that was done to assure quality was very simpleĀ… having a label on every piece of equipment bearing the signatures of the people who assembled and tested the unit.

It is unfortunate that the number of recording labels that do strive for sonic quality are few, and the selection of music therefore limited.
I'm with slappy

pompous pompous pompous

ever heard the saying "all hat & no cattle"?
Hey Slappy-Send Cinematic your Radio Shack speakers you use to use!
What a 'rig'!
David99

Heh, i aint letting those babys go without some serioius cash involved. (laugh) Those babys got me through some tough times!

Cinematic, yer still just basically saying Nrchy doesent know what he is talking about, yer totally hijacking this thread and re directing it. This is not about Nrchy's system, this is about the quality of recordings that are being made. some are great, some arent.

Here is an idea, how about you go to a mechanic and ask about the merits of a particular motor oil, how about instead of answering he instead tells you your car sucks and you made a lousy choice of buying it, that your wheels brand is all wrong, the color is wrong, and your obviously ill informed since you diddnt buy the triple bladed windshield wipers.

You say it was not a cheap shot, i fail to see how.

Either way, who cares. Nrchy's virtual system is not exactly up to date ya know.

Im of a belief that good sound is pretty damn easy to get, then again, maybe im not spoiled to the point where i consider top-stellar-untouchable-uncompromised-performance "good"

Ive got a total of 3 systems, only one i have posted. Personally, i think they all sound great. They would probably make your golden ears bleed though. Too bad. I guess i consider it an advantage to be able to listen to music instead of criticizing the system, regardless to the quality of recording.

That is one thing i hope never changes.

I hope that did not come across as a crybaby, after seeing that devastating blow to Nrchy's ego you delivered i sure wouldnt want such a crippling insult directed my way.

Dont worry Nrchy, just take it one day at a time, eventually those emotional bruises will heal.

LOL

Mr. Singh,
New and Improved Slappy Outsourced from India.
It's hard to type through the tears, the screen is all foggy.

Cinematic you still ignore the points of my post. "you ignore the comments made by Mike Large. He is deeply involved in the process, but maybe he too doesn't know as much as you?" and "What level of system does a person have to own to be able to hear or comment on the quality of recordings? If I only have a boombox will that prevent me from hearing the difference between and good CD and a poorly recorded, mastered, or produced CD?"

The questions were prompted by the comments of Mike Large, not that my system sounds like crap, and I need cinematic to help me replace everything I own with lo-fi gear.