AV Racks. What difference does it make?


Im not sure i understand what difference your rack could possibly have.

I understand everybody here seems to feel that reducing all sorts of vibrations is important as well.

How is that? its not like 1's and 0's get rattled off the circuit board by vibrations

Whats the point in a better rack? What is a better rack? And how does a $1,500.00 rack make anything sound better? I mean, technically, in depth, can anybody explain this phenominon?

Sounds like a buncha horse pucky to me. Kinda like the kinds new clothing.

Does anybody have a theory of how one AV rack can sound different than another? And dont give me any of that room accoustics stuff, i dont see people talking about which sitting chair is best for sound!!!! :)

"I found that wearing wingtips and khaki shorts really opened the soundstage compared to my nikes and TH bluejeans."

I have a good understanding of electronics and accoustics, but i cannot imagine any way a rack could make a difference.
What is the theory of how a Maplewood rack might sound better than an oak for example?

Do you all use racks and isolation pods at the same time?
slappy
Personally, I read TWL's posting as directed toward Eldartford only. Not to the originator of this thread nor anybody else. And it also appeared to me that TWL responded in a certain way because of that individual's use of the word rediculous in describing what I thought was directed toward the owners of certain performance-oriented racks and associated pricing.

Eldartford was kind enough to clarify later what he meant by his use of that word and it obviously was a misunderstanding.

I also misunderstood Eldartford's original choice of words in his first post and applaud TWL's willingness to go out on limb via his response to that poster.

Sure it was a misunderstanding this time. But all too many times there certainly are some to many on this web-site who believe simply because something has not worked for them, therefore, it cannot work for anybody else and will even resort to rediculing those who's experience has demonstrated otherwise.

For example, we've all heard of component and cable burn-in time periods where the sonics improve over a certain amount of hours. Some to many believe burn-in is real whereas others believe it's snake oil.

But who would believe there is also a mechanical burn-in or break-in period of time for certain products i.e. racks, points, etc.? I'm sure there are some people would just snicker at such a thought and then look to ridicule and belittle anybody who believes such a concept as this.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that it is this ridiculing attitude that TWL thought he was responding to.

-IMO
OK everyone...Question.... is there ANY idea that you would dismiss as being wrong without taking the time and trouble to try it out? (In other words "ridiculous" in your opinion).

What if I told you that Side 1 of an LP sounds better when played during odd hours of the clock, and side B during even hours?

To go back to my original comment...I completely agree that "a good solid support is important...) but I respectfully suggest that this is not hard to achieve, and should not cost much.

Many of my friends have some ridiculous ideas (who doesn't) but I still like them.
Stehno,

Im pretty sure he was responding to me, there was another thread about AV racks, i started this one because i thought my question would be a little too off the point of the other thread.
I think i offended TWL in the other thread, in fact, his response to me in the other thread was quite nasty.

Im not too concerned about it, as even though TWL decided to get all offended and take things personally, i still got a multitude of very well put together responses. Im still not too sure how much credit i will give a rack to the sound quality, but apparently there is some credit to be given, and its nice to understand the theory to how the rack affects the sound

Regardless my question was well answered. And i will continue to ask more questions because i know i can count on the people at the 'gon to give good answers

Yeah. i might be younger than alot of people here, and i might have only really been into the hobby for the past 6-7 years, and only financially able to play in it (ex military) for the past couple yearz, but im definatly not stupid. I will not let somebody else's crappy attitude deter me from learning more. :)

Anyways, Thank you for your responses as well Stehno, you sure seem to know alot about this stuff! :)
While I believe we're all here to learn, and share our experiences, how one poses questions, directly results in the answers received. Sarcasm generally results in sarcastic answers, and mentioning rack differences must be "horse pucky" and akin to hearing differences because of wearing different footwear and clothing, and negatively implying that room acoustics make no difference is not asking for help, but implying rack differences are voodoo, and should be dismissed as such. Not a good way to seek help.
By researching this site and others, the above answers could have been easily gleaned, and perhaps TWL assumed you had done so, and your question was more to incite, rather than to enlist help. Slappy, only you know your motivation, but in the future, if you're truly interested in insightful answers from as many folks as possible, perhaps limiting the sarcasm and editorializing, may result in even more cogent responses.
This hobby has been fun and quite surprising. Things I didn't think should (or want to) make a difference, have. Over the years, I've kept an open mind, but more importantly, open ears, and have improved my system.
Obviously, the more resolved the system, the more important, or noticeable the tweaks. Differences are just that, it's up to the end user to determine whether the differences are for the better or worse, but racks, cables, footers, acoustic applications, et al, make differences.
Eldartford, right now I don't see the point in spending big bucks to purchase say, a Rix Rax, Grand Prix Audio or the like, although I did consider Zoethecus.

I've decided to build a rack system that will be bolted to the studs in my wall. I bought nice 16/4 piece of padauk as the spine support and had three maple shelves custom made to the sizes I wanted. All this for about $140 including shipping from hardwood suppliers I occasionally buy from on Ebay.

It's a little experiment to see if I can design and build an audio rack that is aesthetically pleasing and performs well.