Why do Classical CDs sound less Alive/Real/Present ?


Of course GIGO always applies but some of my CDs are on decent labels.
When I listen to symphony recordings as an example, the sound loses its presence
and sounds a bit like I am using a much lesser grade of equipment.

My system has all components in excellent shape as well as a good amount
of acoustic treatments. The room is not large at 16 x 14 x 8 + adjacent open kitchen
behind seating of 10 x 13,  so I am wondering if what I hear is just the nature of the
beast-ie. a lot of instruments going on at one time?

I seem to recall this has always been the case in other settings as well.

What say ye? 

gadios
Much of the genre is particularly difficult to get to record and sound realistic (e.g., choral music, opera, large scale orchestral).  The live setting of such music is particularly difficult to record because the venues are so quiet and the musical dynamic range is extremely wide (takes advantage of the quiet).  We hear live music in a close to ideal surrounding that makes home reproduction nearly impossible.  I don't think most people would really want the full dynamic range of a live performance--the quietest passages would be too soft for a normal home environment and the loudest would be extremely loud and difficult to reproduce; such recordings would be utterly useless for the most common ways people listen to music these days--in the car, or on the go in a noisy environment.

Recordings of classical music have always been meant to be a compromise between fidelity and practicality, and this is the case now even when it is possible to actually deliver a wider range. 

Most popular, non-acoustic music sounds like crap in a live venue and actually sound better in recordings.  Yes, the total live experience is more exciting, but, the actual sound, isolated from everything else is not so good.  That is not the case with classical, so the shortcomings of the recording/reproduction process become much more apparent.

I think many modern labels, such as Chandos, BIS, Harmonia Mundi, do a fair job or recording.  With some labels, the digital re-releases of older recordings actually sound better than the original vinyl versions which were mastered so poorly (e.g., 1970 DG).   Yes, a lot of recordings, including older ones, are brighter sounding than a live performance, but, I think the engineers are basically catering to preferences.  I hear a lot of comments about how certain recordings sound dulled on top, when they are not dull compared to a live performance.


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Classical Music usually isn’t mixed with the “Loudness Wars” mentality.  What may sound recessed and laid back to a pop oriented listener may actually be a more faithful reproduction of acoustic instruments in an actual space.  It takes a good system to do justice to most recorded CM, and it helps to be a discerning listener with experience of hearing live concerts 

If a system is not able to play all the info you will experience less of the soundstage. You can be in this hobby 40-50 years and never playback the entire real space/ real size of classical. It's there in the recording but when a system has signal blockage you're only going to hear what makes it through to your ears and body.

Michael Green

Don't shoot the messenger. There is a ton of music hidden within the CD format, including red book.I have cds that are easily 15 years old, that were some magazines recording of the month, that I found lacking. As my system improves, so does the music