Which one to choose between two 80K$ tube amps?


There are two interesting 80K$ tube amps on sale at Audiogon.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9jhj0-david-berning-co-211-845-otl-tube

The first one is David Berning OTL design with output of 60 Watts.

it looks beautiful. But I had never used OTL amp yet.

I am curious how it sounds with high efficiency speaker.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa27ii-jadis-ja800-flagship-tube-amplifier-six-chassis-best-ever-made-nos-new-old-stock-tube

The second one is Jadis JA800 with 6 pieces and 400watts.

I had used JA500  (only 4 pieces with 350 Watts) from 2000 to 2002 to drive B&W Notilus 801 with utmost authority and unbelievable slam.

It was kind of lifetime experience to own this beautiful and overbearing monster.

But I could not use it during summer time in modest size room.

Thus I let it go and got Silbatone 300B SET amp to drive efficient full range speaker.

350 Watt to 8 Watt

If you have money or hit the Jackpot, which one will you go for?




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Wow, 80K amps!
 That’s awesome!

 Will never have this coin to drop on audio, if I did I would call,Rob Carver personally.
 He will come to your house, and shoot the shi* w you and help set them up, sign them, and have a beer and hang w you for the night.

i would be on the phone immediately for: https://www.bobcarvercorp.com/silver-seven
Berning without a doubt. I’ve heard the 211/845 and it doesn’t get any better. They are also very powerful for a 60 watt rating.
In my listening room, 48 Watts SET is enough to drive my Lansche speaker ( oficial eff 99db/w, but I guess 95db/w).

But I have to save money to afford 80K$ tube amps.

I had spent 30k$ yearly on audio components during last 3 years.

That means I had better not spend any more money for next 2 years
I own Jadis amps....BUT I would NEVER own the larger models! The 500 or worse, the 800, are going to be heat engines...and work great if you need a space heater and live in a very cold climate! Otherwise, why bother with that kind of heat generation???

I also happen to believe if you own a speaker that requires hundreds of watts to drive...you own the wrong speaker and have not considered the all important amp/speaker synergy. Best to dump the speaker and get a more easily driven model.