The "Snake Oil" Trope


Yeah I know, a controversial topic, but after 30+ years of hearing both sides and seeing how the argument has evolved over the years, I want to say my piece.

First, I want to debunk the idea of ever using the term, "Snake Oil" because it has been incorrectly appropriated and is not being applied genuinely. For a product to be "Snake Oil" it isn't a simple matter of, "it doesn't do what it claims to do." It has to contain a few more qualities. Chief among them, the materials or ingredients have to be fake, falsified, or non-existent. I have yet to encounter a single premium cable manufacturer who has claimed to use copper or silver and it was fake.

This would be an example of cable "Snake Oil" if it existed:

Company claim: "A 10 gauge speaker wire made of ten 9's pure silver, extracted from conflict-free mines, using NASA quality FEP dielectrics, braided in 24 strands of 17 gauge wire, all concealed in the newly developed element, Star-Spangled-Bannerite, that enhances and boosts all frequencies, repairing broken audio as it travels down the conductor."

Reality: Cutting open the wire you find 3 strands of 14 gauge aluminum wire, wrapped in Glad's saran-wrap, threaded through a 10 gauge rubber garden hose, covered in a fancy colored net.

My biggest problem with the nay-sayer community is the hypocrisy of their accusation that premium quality cables are "Snake Oil" when their charts, measurements and tests have the same level of skepticism they purport to debunk. Using "Snake Oil" to prove "Snake Oil?" Ask yourself the following questions when you next see some online or vlog rant about how cables don't make a difference and they have the measurements to prove it:

1) Did they actually connect the cables to speakers and listen?
2) If they made measurements, did they show you how those cables were connected when they conducted the tests?
3) If it is a vlog, did they show in the video live footage of them conducting the test or is everything after-the-fact?
4) How does the test prove quality and how does the author quantify "quality?"

99% of the time the answer is "no." You just see people posting pictures of charts that could have been made using any form of software.  Heck, I could make one in Photoshop that dictates any conclusion I want. The truth is, there isn't a single form of equipment or measurement software that tests the actual perceived quality or clarity of a signal.

For example, "that guy" from Audioholics posted a video bashing a $4000 Audioquest speaker cable.  He claims to have run it through tests and he posted pictures of graphs that he gave conclusions for.  Not once did he show how it was connected to the machines or equipment. More over, he claimed to have broken the cable, by easily snapping off the banana plug (made of pure copper coated in silver). Well, if that were true, then how could he have possibly connected the cable correctly to test it?  He also claimed the cable was on loan from Audioquest.  Red flag. Audioquest does not send out one speaker cable to test; they'd have sent out a pair.  He also wasn't at all concerned that he had broken a $4000 loaner cable.  Therefore, I suspect someone else broke their own cable and let "this guy" borrow it for a video. Lastly, he claims to test the effectiveness of the "DBS" system by showing you a digital read out on some other machine.  He claims to unplug the DBS system live...but...off screen, and the digital read out changes. That makes absolutely no sense, since the DBS system isn't tied to the actual conductors or connectors. It's a charged loop from end to end and only keeps the insulation's dielectric field charged. So unplugging it while a signal is being passed through the cable wouldn't change anything. Therefore,  the nay-sayer argument, in this instance, was nothing more than "Snake Oil" trying to prove "Snake Oil."

Another time, someone was given a premium XLR cable, but had no idea what an XLR cable was.  They didn't recognize the connector format; a red flag straight away!  Then goes on to claim all the different measurements they took from it and how it was no better than the free cables you get from manufacturers.  Well, if that is true, how was this cable connected to the equipment? If he didn't know what the XLR format was, then it stands to reason they didn't have an XLR input on the equipment they used to test. Therefore, how in the world was this an equitable or viable test of the quality if the cable's conductors weren't all being used correctly during the test? Not once did this person connect it to an audio system to say how it sounded. How do electrical measurements translate into sound quality if one refuses to listen to it?

My final argument against the nay-sayers is one they all have the most trouble with. They don't use the Scientific Method.  For example, where's the control in these tests? What system or cable do they universally *ALL* agree is perfect and that they test against? The systems and cables always change and are never consistent. Why is it that they argue for an A / B test, but aren't willing to set one up for themselves? As if it's someone else's responsibility because they refuse to be responsible for their conclusions. Why is it that they only test low end or middle grade cables, but never seem to run these tests on the highest levels? Why is it that the majority of nay-sayers never purchase any of this equipment to find out for themselves?

What I have discovered after 30+ years of arguing this topic, is that the nay-sayers just don't want to have to buy expensive cables.  Instead they seek out any form of cognitive bias they can find to use as justification to not buy it.  Then suddenly concern themselves with other people's purchase power and tell them not to purchase such cables, as if these people are spending their money. Or they claim that they should have spent all that money on better equipment. Touche', but if they bought better equipment, they'd still buy premium cables to push that better equipment. That's like saving your money to buy a Lamborghini, then deciding on buying 15 inch steel rims with narrow tires for it because wheels are wheels...they bought a better vehicle, so won't need premium tires...or premium gas because the engine is superior. *eye roll.* What it seems to boil down to is that they don't like the idea that just buying premium cables alone can surpass a high grade, well-engineered system. To borrow from my car analogy, buying premium tires for a 4-cylynder hatch back won't make it go any faster, but it will effect some performance, likely gas mileage and road grip. Using the same analogy, buying better cables is akin to buying a turbo kit, back-exhaust system, better suspension, better intake valves, better cold air filters, etc to make that 4-cylinder hatch back perform nearly as well as a stock   Lamborghini.

Final thoughts, "Snake Oil" salesmen back in the day weren't just interested in defrauding their customers, they wanted to do it with the least amount of effort. They didn't try to get authentic, high quality ingredients to make the oil look or taste better.  They used whatever was on-hand and as free as possible. Cable companies sure seem to go out of their way to acquire the best possible conductors and materials, and have R&D teams engineer complicated wire geometries and spend years finding ways to treat the cables, or develop active tech to impact the signal, just so they can make a few bucks. If the product had absolutely no impact on sound quality, at all,  it wouldn't take long for well-engineered systems to reveal their faults and the industry would tank, almost over night. Clearly, they haven't and it's because it isn't "Snake Oil" no matter how many times that old trope is trotted out.

One of the serious problems in this entire discussion is that the perception of "quality" is 100% subjective to the listener, the state of the equipment, the room it is being conducted in, and health of the listener. After years of auditioning my system to people, I realized it isn't a simple matter of asking, "How did that sound to you." You have to be very specific.  Ask, "Did you hear that specific sound?"  9 times out of 10, they'll say they didn't hear it.  So you play it again and point it out.  Then they light up and realize that no matter how many times they heard that song, they had never heard that particular sound.  Then they go and compare it to the car radio or through their device's ear buds and realize they cannot hear it or couldn't hear it as clear.  Then they come to respect what you're trying to achieve.




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I'm with you OP, I do what ever I want to do. I tailor the sound with cables all the time.. I've yet to really find a neutral cable. I'm not sure I know what neutral or transparent really means. I think the terms attached to the description is what throws me. I've read 5 page reviews that boil down to. THEY SOUND OK, or GOOD, or worse yet THEY sound bad and it took 5 pages to say it..:-)

Regards
Plenty of speaker wire manufacturers pretending their products confirm to standards of definitions that they do not. It ranges from Canare star quad OFC bulk cable not actually being used in 95% of sales of terminated star quad cables sold singly or in sets, to many false claims of the use of silver in manufacturing and everything in between. Often, the MSRP of terminated cables is far below the wholesale cost of the raw materials. If you’ve ever wasted money on these snake oil cables, paying for peace of mind by also paying what it costs for companies like Audioquest to advertise like crazy and yet still makes tons of money, is something that’s easy to defend when it comes to satisfying the only person worth convincing you’re doing the right thing (you). 
@dgluke

Thing is, there isn't really a company out there that I know of that specializes in selling bulk raw wire that is designed and manufactured with audio applications in mind. They are all built for general electrical and mechanical applications. All the DIY videos and blogs out there are buying bulk Belden or other engineering industry supply companies. Then they are applying the same geometries that they've seen these "Snake Oil" merchants use like "Star-Quad" and "Hyperlitz" etc. Then they go and purchase aftermarket connectors sold by companies that also make "Snake Oil" and then consider themselves heroes that rose above "Snake Oil." *eye roll* Or, they're buying PREMADE electric cable that is meant to be used for mechanical purposes and adding after-market connectors and calling it a day. Those might sound great, but I won't know because I would know that they were never designed or meant to be used for audio. I would rather buy something I knew was meant to be used in an audio system.

I don't have the nimble fingers needed to thread solid copper, or silver for that matter.  I know because I tried. You need tools and in some cases, a special machine that I have seen these "Snake Oil" merchants use to ensure an exact and precise twist from end to end. That's the sort of "Peace of Mind" I am willing to pay for.  It's why I would rather go to and pay extra for a certified mechanic, rather than save money hiring a guy that knows a guy whose cousin worked on a few cars over the Summer break because he bought a Dealership Repair manual on eBay, has a few tools, and is "handy".

The truth is, these "Snake Oil" merchants seek out electrical supply companies and contract them to make wire that fits their very specific direction.  A direction that they had their own in-house designer come up with.  Right down to how the metal is treated. Then they contract a company to build a connector, that also meets their expectations. Then they hire and train staff to assemble these cables by hand using specialized tools. All this costs THEM money. So yeah, economics, they are going to pass that cost on to the customer. Am I going to cry foul because they decided to go with a trendy nylon, lattice-work design as a jacket cover which adds to the price tag? Or used some type of plastic net? No. That's silly. That is not to mention the fluctuating price of precious and semi-precious metals like copper and silver.

LOL, I mean, I would tip my hat to someone who can buy all that bulk electrical wire, braid up a complex layered copper ring of concentric circles where each layer is counter direction to the previous, adding a non-intrusive dielectric between each layer, then precisely running a core cable of silver, dead center in the cable so that it doesn't get anywhere near touching the copper braid surrounding it. Then feed that through a form of insulation that can withstand the heat and electric charge without deteriorating and without compromising the quality of signal. Oh right, then they'd have to create a mold and strike a solid copper connector that they would then solder or cold weld all that copper and silver to. Yeah, hats off to that guy!  I wonder how much they'd charge to make me that cable...probably a lot. ;)

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Gaukas, both VH Audio and Duelund sell bulk wire manufactured specifically designed and manufactured for audio use.
I use both in making diy Helix power cords, pretty complex cords, long thread here in reference to these cable. Also recipes for IC and speaker.
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