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I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged.

I just can't clear my head of this. I don't want to start a measurements vs listening war and I'd appreciate it if you guys don't, but I bought a Rogue Sphinx V3 as some of you may remember and have been enjoying it quite a bit. So, I head over to AVS and read Amir's review and he just rips it apart. But that's OK, measurements are measurements, that is not what bugs me. I learned in the early 70s that distortion numbers, etc, may not be that important to me. Then I read that he didn't even bother listening to the darn thing. That is what really bugs me. If something measures so poorly, wouldn't you want to correlate the measurements with what you hear? Do people still buy gear on measurements alone? I learned that can be a big mistake. I just don't get it, never have. Can anybody provide some insight to why some people are stuck on audio measurements? Help me package that so I can at least understand what they are thinking without dismissing them completely as a bunch of mislead sheep. 

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russ69 OP
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We want to try and understand this divide, do we not?

@teo_audio Probably the best post in this thread. 

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nonoise
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Agreed. That was a great post. Reminds me of the time when I said, on another thread a while back, that it could be that objectivists can't appreciate the beauty and nuances that subjectivists do in musical recordings, or at least, anywhere near their level. That really pissed some of them off.

All the best,
Nonoise

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thyname
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Why the obsession with what other people spend on gear and their insistence that anything over $1500 is just wasted money?

A marketing decision. Based on what they “subtly “ peddle. Just follow the money. It’s always about the money.

If I tried to post at ASR, similar to how I post here at audiogon.....I’d be removed in almost seconds.

They will not remove you if you do that. They will keep you and will pile on you. On purpose. Like vultures. They have an official policy (not kidding),  a narcissist procedure of “cat and mouse “ sort of game. They will play you from a position of competence and utmost superiority.

These are the foot soldiers of projected violence, on (audio) forums, for the most part.

Yup! Well put. Someone called them the Objectivist measurements activists. I would say Militants is most appropriate. And like missionaries, they have to go places. Other audio forums. All of them. Nothing to do with music or audio.

 

 

 

tsushima1
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“ A marketing decision. Based on what they “subtly “ peddle. Just follow the money. It’s always about the money”

Like your old chum Chucky you mean !

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mahgister
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Idolatry of science is not science, but technology cult, see Bill Gates who want to treat viruses in biology in his last book like virus in computer... Shutting all them down at once!... Stupidity is not opposed in the same person  to a I.Q. over 120 it seems... 😁😊

Objectivistic zealots are more limited than subjectivist fetichist in the audio arena ?

Why?

Because in psycho-acoustic the EARS are king and queen...The objective installation and numbers are only the 7 working dwarves...

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