KT-150 Tubes- Push Farther or Replace?


Hello All-

Seeking advice from others that may have been in this spot before. I’m currently running my trusty Audio Research GS-150 power amp and I’ve just crossed 2200 hours on this set of tubes. I have a new octet of KT-150’s waiting in the wings.

Within the last 200-300 listening hours I noticed that the bias was requiring adjustment after every 3-4 listening sessions. This seems to be driven by two of the tubes continually falling low in bias adjustment.

As the tube bias is slaved in pairs would/could it be beneficial to isolate the two tubes that keep falling low onto the same pair of sockets with the hope that bias can be more evenly maintained or does it just sound like it’s time for these to GO?

The amplifiers manual states that replacement should be around 2K hrs but I’ve read posts here stating 3K might be achievable. The current situation is lower quality bass response and weaker soundstage. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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I agree with @russ69; I had to recently replace 1 Kt150 in my Ref 75SE because it would not hold bias after 400 hours of use.

@welcher - that is really unfortunate and a little suspicious. I haven’t heard a Ref 75SE with KT-150’s, how has the presentation changed for you since moving to that tube?
 

@decooney- Thank you for the suggestions sent. After noting the previous bias levels I moved the tube in question two times and the problem followed the tube. I guess it’s just a bad apple! What’s interesting is that although all of the tubes had factory measurements written at the base this problem tube was the only one w/o a slot number noted on it. I moved it to where it shares the bias adjustment with the next weakest tube and was able to get that pair to within range. If this holds up I will continue their use to see how far they can go before becoming unbearable.

With all that is going on now with availability I didn’t want to jump to a full changeout but as @russ69 noted I don’t think it will be too much longer.

Thanks Again!

Sounds like you've got it figured out.  A while back I watched a tour of the factory and how they batch those groupings of matched kt150 tubes for your amp.  I recall thinking I'd likely not get too hung up on keeping matched quads or octets if I owned that amp, and maybe just keeping a few matched pairs around and replace those pairs when needed.  Hopefully you can replace them in some kind of way where you're not replacing all of them at once.  Good luck with the bias checking and longevity! 

"The current situation is lower quality bass response and weaker soundstage. Any thoughts would be appreciated."

that’s it, new tubes!

I’ll add my advice, get your own simple tube tester, to test existing tubes; new tubes you buy; and any time you need ’it’s not the tubes’ confidence answer when something else is ’off’.