Analyzing DACs


As I am new to the hifi hobby, reading various product reviews and noting the details of the test environment have made me very confused.  I understand Stereophile is the hifi bible. In the publication’s DAC published tests the reviewers almost always tested the DAC connected directly to the amplifier. I think I understand why—nothing in the chain influencing the DAC sound. Is that the correct assumption? If that’s the case why incorporate a preamp if the DAC has a preamp section that is a common feature even on high end DACs? I’m in the market for a new DAC. I’m trying to avoid unnecessary components if possible. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.  

tee_dee

I would say that the one advantage to following the ASR sheep is that the units recommended by ASR can be resold very quickly and without taking as much of a haircut in the process. 
 

That is a good observation.

Charles

There’s a lot to be said about separate components if you have the space. The two biggest issues are noise isolation and separate power supply’s. That’s where you get performance. 

Interesting to me, how these discussions become so incredibly polarizing. Isn’t it true that there are many variables to consider here? A good sounding dac is a good sounding dac. A dac that measures well does not guarantee that its output stage will be particularly pleasing. But it is possible that a dac that measures well can also be a great good sounding dac. It is possible for a poorly measuring dac to still sound unique and wonderful. So much of this is subject to personal trial and error. However objectivist we’d like to be, two individuals with the exact same equipment will find differences in their setups for reasons that extend beyond their equipment.

Circuitry and the arrangement of internal components, board designs, filter caps (or lack there of), chips, or discrete circuits, wiring (and the amount of it), etc etc etc. all render different results. Question is, how do we listen? What are we finding or looking for when we do?

Not a guarantee, and there are some price conscious outlier/somewhat giant killer components out there…but I have found that quality components paired with good design = good sound. But I suppose even that’s too subjective.

@tee_dee 

When you use the DAC as a digital volume control directly into an amp the DAC is lowering the bit depth and therefore taking resolution out of the bit stream.

If you want  less boxes then go with an integrated amp, I'm thinking you would very much like to have the volume control in the analog world.

Go forth and listen, then listen some more and then even more.  Talk is cheap. Trust you ears. They won't lie to you.

Regards,

barts

 

 

You cannot pick a components by measurements alone.  Price has nothing to do with sound quality.  You have not mentioned what type of sound you prefer so every recommendation here is completely useless.  Do you like a tube sound or SS sound and do you know why they sound different?
Most products use less expensive parts no matter what the price.  Parts make sound quality.  Power supplies are where you should start first.  Computer grade PS capacitors or Nichicon Supers?  Bradly resistors or Takman, Amtrans or Audio Note.  V-Capacitors?  If not then you get what you pay for.

 

As far as a DAC without a preamp, I would suggest that method until you find a preamp that helps your system sound better to your own ears.

You do not mention a price range.  So without that, I cannot assist you.

 

Happy Listening.