Can/Is AI Used To Post Threads on Audigon?

Why not? I’ve read that bots can sign up to internet accounts, and from there, if you’ve ever played with the freely available "AI," you can ask it to write a contract, for example. And it will do that. A little prosaic, maybe lacking some nuance, but it will be natural language and look ok.

I find the area fascinating. I don’t regard these things as "intelligence" even if they pass a Turing Test. They are simply regurgitating an amalgam of what has been loaded into them. One person told me that they don’t even seek clearance from content owners, they scrape. So that ingestion stage, unless there are safeguards, means they have access to a whole variety of material.

This raises a lot of interesting legal and policy issues. I’m trying to get a better understanding of it, even though I can’t write code worth poop and am really an old analog guy.

If I were to speculate, they have to have data crunchers to sift through the massive amounts of data collected. That’s simply another side of the same coin in some ways.

This is gonna be a fast moving field, and maybe like "meh, the Internet is a fad," it won’t catch on, but realistically, I think basic machine interactions should be a given at this point. A friend told me in China, they plug their health ID into an authorized receptacle, and the doctor can see all your records from any source.

Meanwhile, our medical system uses fax for security/HiPAA. Telex, anybody? :)

I am not usually a "chicken little", but AI, in my opinion, poses the largest threat to our safety we have ever seen.

Unless stringent safeguards are built into programs from the outset, we will not be able to control a technology that has no real understanding of human ethics or emotions.

If you doubt this is a threat, spend a few minutes listening to Geoffrey Hinton. Hinton is a British-Canadian cognitive psychiatrist and computer scientist, most noted for his work on artificial neural networks. He worked for Google Brain until recently, but quit when he realized the risks that the technology posed.

 

AI is only as good as the people who write the code for it. There needs to be a Asimov like set of laws written that precludes AI from harming humans in any manner like his:

The first law is that a robot shall not harm a human, or by inaction allow a human to come to harm. The second law is that a robot shall obey any instruction given to it by a human, and the third law is that a robot shall avoid actions or situations that could cause it to come to harm itself.

If we don't, it could end up like what happened to the Krell in the movie, Forbidden Planet. They built a machine that could materialize their thoughts, thinking it would create an Eden of sorts and be the pinnacle of their civilization.

They all synced in at night before going to sleep and ended up releasing the darkest regions of their Ids, destroying themselves overnight. We're about 1/3 the way right now thanks to the internet and its ability to close distances to almost nothing and now we're constantly bumping uncomfortably into one another. 

A classic and prescient movie if there ever was one. 

All the best,
Nonoise

People already are very disconnected from reality...

Myself included here...I dont judge saying that...

A.I. is too big innovation for an immature society... Corporate interests run it in a race...

Apprentice sorcerers payed by big corporations..

the first danger : control of humanity...

The last three years illustrated well how easy is the control of humans...

 

Now there is another problem...

In the opposite of what some people think : it is not us who progrannmmed A. I. large language model...We can act on them for sure NOW for themoment, to slow them or direct them in some desired direction , it is the alignment problem , where the goals of the A. I. must be made compatible always and align always to human goal... The problem is Asimov laws dont work here... The mathematical method and perfect way to solve the alignemt problem is not settled ...There is here the same paradoxical problem as in formal system in Maths as illustrated by Godel theorems... Is the barber shaving all those who do not shave themselves shave himself ? 😁

With the neural network mathematical black box we no longer PROGRAM as we were programming computer for precise task in the past , with A. I. it is the REVERSE; the A. I. PROGRAM US without aligning itself completely or once for all to ONLY pure human goals... A recent A. I. LLM learn persian without any command for doing so, he did it for himself not for us...The engineers were astonished discovering this..

Hinton who is the father of neural network mathematics know that... He know that he was a payed "slave" in a way for corporate interest, he is old, and he decided to quit his job to be free to speak for humankind... He is no more at his peak and dont mind celebrity or money, he think for the common good..A great man...

But even Hinton made the error of confusing artificial intelligence with human intelligence in an unfair and not well founded comparison and saying that machine will exceed humans... it is an half misleading truth... A. I. is also captive of this universe and cannot reincarnate nor access cosmic intelligence as any human can do passed the usual life limitations...Read NDE litterature or life of yogis etc..

We dont need a brain to think, remote perception even without body is a proven fact even the DOD in US proved that 40 years ago with Ingo Swann and Stubblebine and many others ... I will not go further in this sensible matter...

The greatest danger of A. I. is the lost of contact with reality under the spell of this virtual reality power and the way psychopathic corporate powers will use it ...

 

For those who think i am only a religious luddite, i know that A. I. will be soon replaced by A. C. artificial consciousness exactly like in the film "blade runner" by the visionary Dick...

The mathematics of neural network is not the last word, only a beginning, a new mathematical theory of information will make possible artificial consciousness... It is already here and i have bought the book a year ago... An autonomous intelligence who will learn not by using language based models or video models on the internet , but who will learn as a child do walking in the real world... The mathematic for that is already here...it is a mathemathical matter more complex than neural network statistical black box maths.

Now why creating an artificial consciousness condemned to be mortal and captive of the material world as in "blade runner"... This is a high spiritual responsability perhaps a mortal sin... But it will be done...

Now ask yourself who will benefit from all this ?

I presume being adults that we all know that no elected government on earth is nothing more than puppets...

i am afraid that the most challenging time are coming... I am optimist by spiritual faith and i dont fear death... But i am pessimist for the incoming times... We live eternally, no A. I. can do that and at the end my optimism is infinite ...

What is one million years if you are not eternal ? A fleeting moment nothing else... There is no difference between one million years life and 80 years compared to eternity..Human are immortal consciousness... The brain is a filters system not the cause of consciousness...But the materialist who fear death and dont know that are called transhumanist... They drive google and many corporations ... They do not think for the comm9on good at all.. They think for themselves by definition of someone who believe he own only 80 years of life nothing else and a physical body...

it was my ramble about A. i.

 

 

 

@vonhelmholtz 

These bots have been around for quite a few months.  They are not attempting to insinuate themselves into our inner sanctum by pretending to be knowledgeable members.  Think of them as “phishing” expeditions.  Their only purpose is to get you to let down your guard and click on a malicious link so you end up “pwned.”

See a member name you don’t recognize?  Just joined today?  Something a bit off about the post?  Likely a bot.  As long as you don’t click on the link it posts (sometimes right away, sometimes after a few days) you should be fine.